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Does anyone know if you can do simple peer to peer networking with NT like you can in 95/98 this is an important feature to me because I dont want to have to buy NT $erver. Thanks, Lucas Haag At 02:30 PM 3/3/99 -0500, you wrote: >Agree with James ! > >I'm running NT 4.0 on a Toshiba notebook (we did this about a year before it had >Toshiba's blessing...) > >DiskKeeper DEFINITELY makes a difference. I didn't set it up to run automatically >and whenever my machine starts to bog down I run it and the improvement IS >noticeable ! > >Plug-n-Play has been called Plug-n-Pray by a number of us here too, for SOME >time... > >My cohort was installing a PCMCIA modem card in his Toshiba (with NT 4.0) and it >crashed and started issuing OS/2 error messages and pointing to OS/2 code !!! A >bad drive turned out to be the problem. > >I would NEVER touch Win9x after NT !!! > >It DOES like memory, of course if you look at the box, Office 97 Pro has FINALLY >started owing up to what memory the apps "might" need !!! > >I am running 144MB of memory and things are GREAT !! > >Chuck > >James W Kilgore wrote: > >> Jeff, >> >> IMHO, NT is preferred, but there is a cost. >> >> Certain hardware will not work under NT. There is a hardware >> compatibility list available on the net. This is a factor in the cost >> of switching. Remember NT is OS/2 (with a new face). OS/2 is picky, >> therefore NT is picky. >> >> For those that do not believe that NT is OS/2, check your directory. >> You will find OS2.exe and you can read/write 2.88mb diskettes. Before >> everyone gets their jets all fired up, NT does run under it's own kernel >> but whenever an OS/2 function is required, it gracefully punts the the >> OS that can actually do the job. >> >> The upside to 95/98 would be products like Cybermedia First Aid that >> fixes a 95 Reg file. Not available under NT AFAIK. NT does not come >> with a defrag, but search for Diskeeper Lite and you can find a low >> priced add-on. >> >> NT can deal with multiple NIC's and IP address' if that matters to you. >> Win 95/98 don't AFAIK. >> >> As far as 16 bit 95 applications like Word Perfect, load Win 95/98, load >> Word Perfect, load NT over Win 95/98 and it will run. NT will not let >> it install. You must have the disk FAT16. Now this is an old rule and >> it may not apply for Win98 to NT but did for Win95 to NT. >> >> Now for you Roger: >> >> Roger Pence wrote: >> > >> >> > Here are other drawbacks that quickly come to mind... >> > >> > 3. Iffy twinax connectivity. NT won't recognize many twinax cards (or any >> > other hardware-dependent cards). >> >> I've found this to be true of 16bit ISA cards, especially with sound >> cards that want to grab the available IRQ. Stealth cards may not create >> this problem. Pulling sound cards and modems to get a twinax card to >> work has become standard routine for us. >> >> > 4. No plug and play support (which, although maligned for Win9x has saved me >> > lots of time and grief) >> >> My brother-in-law is the data center admin for a local CC and he calls >> it "plug and pray". ;-) >> >> > 5. Memory! Win9X reaches diminishing returns past 64MB, not NT. With NT, get >> > 128MB! >> >> True, for some reason you will actually degrade a Win95 box if you have >> more than 64k. For NT, the more the better. OS/2 will run is 32mb a >> whole lot better than NT. IMHO, 64k for NT is a start point. >> >> > 6. No disk defrag included--get one and use it >> >> I've used Diskeeper Lite and to tell you the truth, it runs defrag every >> month so I can't tell if I've had an improvement because I've never had >> a slowdown. But I feel better knowing it's been done. Now this is on >> the workstation, not the server. On the server side, if it fragments >> enough that you can actually measure the response and run a trial >> Diskeeper and actually measure the improvement it may be beneficial >> beyond personal satisfaction of having run a useless MS required task >> that no other OS requires. >> >> > 7. Spotty app compability. Generally apps work across platforms, but >> > sometimes there is still a stickler. Lotus ScreenCam was my latest headache >> > (Adobe Type Manager before that) >> >> Curious, are these 16bit apps? Haven't used either myself. >> >> > 8. OS cost. For one workstation, the upgrade isn't a big deal. For lots, >> > though, bring your fat checkbook. >> >> Now Roger, don't quibble about acquisition cost vs cost of ownership. >> Isn't that the popular arguement of an AS/400 over an NT box? ;-) But >> let's face it, it's easier to tell a committee that it's only $200 each >> vs saying it's $20k, one time, for all of them. >> > >> > One other thought, MS has backed off its NT-on-the-desktop strategy. There >> > is a wave of discontent building for very fat desktops and MS has seen the >> > light. Don't be bullied into thinking Win9X goes away anytime soon). >> > >> > Having said all that, if you can live within its constraints, I agree with >> > Bob that NT is the way to go. >> >> I believe that MS has made it clear that 95/98 is a consumer product and >> NT is a commercial product. IMHO, pick accordingly. >> >> James W. 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