RE: Stupid AS/400 web site tricks -- MIDRANGE-L

I've been "lurking" on MIDRANGE-L for only a couple of weeks, and this
is my first post. But I had to respond to this thread.

Roger Pence wrote:
"Quick now: there is an AS/400 Telnet SSL Proxy server available for 
download from IBM on the Internet. Can you quickly find it by
searching AS/400 or IBM web sites? (NO FAIR USING THIRD-PARTY SEARCH
ENGINES SUCH AS SEARCH400.COM OR SOURCE400.COM!--THEY, UNLIKE IBM,
MAKE IT RELATIVELY EASY TO FIND--THAT IS, IF YOU KNOW TO USE THEM IN
THE FIRST PLACE)."

WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?

First - I'm surprised that you would even mention Source400
(www.source400.com) and Search400 (www.search400.com) in the same
sentence! Source400 doesn't help you find anything on the IBM site!
Because when you choose to search against only IBM's site, all
source400 does is pass the query on to IBM's search engine, which is
the atrocity that started this whole thread.

Second - To use the best example I know of, search for "domino" on
Source400 and not one of their first 10 results even mentions the
AS/400 (3 are for pizza delivery, 1 is a graphic design studio in
Estonia, and 1 is for Fats Domino fans). 

Search for "domino" on searhc400 and their first 10 results are:
1. AS/400 DOMINO DECISIONS" 
2. SG24-5181 Lotus Domino for AS/400 - Installation, Customization,
Administration
3. AS/400 Domino advisor
4. Lotus Domino for AS/400
5. What's in Domino for AS/400?
6. AS/400 Domino advisor
7. Domino for AS/400 Navigation Bar
8. Domino for AS/400 
9. Domino for AS/400
10. AS/400 Domino advisor

Just my $.02!

Sinjin DeVoe
Systems Analyst
Intouch Digital Publishing


---"BORING, David" <dboring@shl.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think this only applies to the AS/400 portion of IBM's web
site. I
> tried to find some information about an older 5250 emulation card on
IBM's
> site a couple of weeks ago. I started at www.ibm.com since I figured
that it
> may be considered a "Networking" product.
> 
> So I type "5250 emulation" in the search. I got nothing. Then I
tried "5250
> express". Again, nothing. I finally went to IBM's networking site,
did some
> fumbling around, looked on some very long product displays, and
finally
> found what I was looking for.
> 
> Never mind the fact that it took me over an hour to find out how to
set the
> dip switches on this card. In the real world, I should have been
able to
> find it in a matter of minutes.
> 
> And we still complain about Microsoft's horrible habit of making
information
> hard to find? ;-)
> 
> David Boring
> Systems Engineer
> MCI Systemhouse
> Direct: (562) 809-5460
> Vnet: 723-5460
> E-mail: dboring@shl.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:39:55 -0600
> From: "Roger Pence" <rp@rogerpence.com>
> Subject: Stupid AS/400 web site tricks
> 
> I think the AS/400 web presence (and its cousin CD documentation is 
> awful)! The frustrating part is that most of what you want is
available, 
> you must need to be Nostrodomus to find it!
> 
> Take the AS/400 info challenge:
> 
> Quick now: there is an AS/400 Telnet SSL Proxy server available for 
> download from IBM on the Internet. Can you quickly find it by
searching 
> AS/400 or IBM web sites? (no fair using third-party seach engines
such 
> as search400.com or source400.com!--they, unlike, IBM, make it 
> relatively easy to find--that is, if you know to use them in the
first 
> place!).
> 
> I'd sure appreciate someone giving me a reality check on how hard it
is 
> to find this. I contend that IBM's web sites are often nearly
impossible 
> to navigate for locating things. Am I wrong?
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> rp
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