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Hello everyone On the ISO subject.. I was working in Goteborg for SKF when they were going thro' their ISO program. I was working for Group Sonitrol when we did the same thing. The differences are instructive. First - realise that it has nothing to do with the quality of your work. You can be ISO certified and produce submarines that dont float, and aeroplanes with no wings. - As long as all the forms are filled in. At Group Sonitrol we grasped the opportunity - took a look at the procedures, threw out half, made what we kept simple and worthwhile, and re-trained everyone in the ethic and the practice of quality. If the manual says that code is promoted with no testing, and that is what you do, then fine. If it says that you conduct a walk through with a peer, then that's fine - but someone should sign something to say it was done. The point is that existing good practices should be kept and adhered to, and ISO is a way of ensuring the adherence in an auditable manner. At SKF, on the other hand, all existing procedures and handbooks were adopted unchanged. Loads of that stuff was obsolete, and applied to 'other' platforms. Questions that couldn't be answered were on the checklists It cost a fortune, and demotivated everyone in the team, bringing down productivity to zilch. The fact that some of the stuff had to be ignored devalued all the good bits. My advice is to document good practice, create simple procedures that will work, then work them. Leave the ability for individuals to accept reponsibility for testing with their signature 'Authorised for promotion by .... ' sort of thing. ANd remeber that procedure 1 is 'How to change the ISO procedures' because you can always add bits to fill in the holes later. Bon Chance Richard Wilson Technique Consultants Ltd Worcestershire, UK +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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