Re: Re[2]: market intelligence -- MIDRANGE-L

Hey Dean!  I'm from Arkansas!  (but I moved in 1962)

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Jim Waymire                                                      Simi
Valley, Ca

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From: DAsmussen@aol.com <DAsmussen@aol.com>
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Date: Friday, November 20, 1998 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: market intelligence


>Eric,
>
>In a message dated 98-11-18 11:34:53 EST, you write:
>
>>      You're right, you're right, you're right. I've almost given up on
>>       such things as fair compensation, employee training, etc. I've been
>>       a midranger for 12+ years, and NEVER ONCE sent for training,
>>       conferences, or whatever. I'm single, and have routinely been
>>       offered less pay than my married counterparts, even when they're
>>       relative novices on midrange system. I've been hired for full-time
>>       positions in far-away cities, moved, only to be laid off six months
>>       later after we put out the firecalls. I've been lured into jobs
>>       then left holding the bag when ALL the other programmers left. Most
>>       of the problems I've faced in my "career" ( ;-/ ) have been
>>       directly tied to greed and a desire to take advantage of the
>>       disadvantaged...
><<snip>>
>
>Well, as I advised someone off-line recently, your area has a great deal to
do
>with that.  Failed jobs 1-3 were in Arkansas, where you had to "know
someone
>who knew someone" to get a decent job.  I suggested taking jobs with larger
>employers or with branches of larger employers in the area.  The downfall
of
>the latter is that large companies are _EXCRUCIATINGLY_ slow to move for
most
>of us midrangers, and rather slow pay for consultants that haven't "put
back".
>
>Having "known someone who knew someone" since my first job at age 12, I got
>fed up and finally sought a job based on my own merits.  Unfortunately, our
>"Lord God Protector of the United States of America Who Is Also an Economic
>Guru and Always Tells the Truth" had completely _DECIMATED_ the economy of
>Arkansas during his tenure as Governor.  To get a job in a reasonable time-
>frame without knowing someone, I had to leave family and friends behind to
get
>a job in the Research Triangle area on my own merits.  You _can_ get a
decent
>job in the West/MidWest/Southwest region without knowing someone, but you
must
>be prepared to wait three months longer than everyone else in the country
and
>flee from "Family Owned Businesses" and "Good Christian People" -- general
>buzzwords for "we're going to promise you a lot and deliver little"...
>
>JMHO,
>
>Dean Asmussen
>Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc.
>Fuquay-Varina, NC  USA
>E-Mail:  DAsmussen@aol.com
>
>"Acceptance of prevailing standards often means we have no standards of our
>own." -- Jean Toomer
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