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Dean, You're right, you're right, you're right. I've almost given up on such things as fair compensation, employee training, etc. I've been a midranger for 12+ years, and NEVER ONCE sent for training, conferences, or whatever. I'm single, and have routinely been offered less pay than my married counterparts, even when they're relative novices on midrange system. I've been hired for full-time positions in far-away cities, moved, only to be laid off six months later after we put out the firecalls. I've been lured into jobs then left holding the bag when ALL the other programmers left. Most of the problems I've faced in my "career" ( ;-/ ) have been directly tied to greed and a desire to take advantage of the disadvantaged..... Maybe I need to get out of Texas.... (BG) eric.delong@pmsi-services.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Actually, this is fairly common. It's also why I have 8 companies on my 18+ year resume', only three of which are still in business (among the survivors, one was my foray into the "private sector", another is a consulting company which no longer has any "associates", and the third is ESC which is still going strong after nearly 3 years). My last "real" job had new management scrambling to hold the thing together -- we had a good team, but old management had squandered the money. In the latter case, potential financiers looked at us with a blank stare, as they had _NEVER_ before seen a computer consulting group with a five year plan. Old obligations ultimately put the company under despite our best efforts. As a cautionary tale, I'll present the following "top ten things to do as a consulting firm" and the reason my first five consultancies went under: Top Ten Things Consultancies Should Do: 10. Don't even bother to try if you cannot afford current technology and education time for in-house staff. 9. Never take a "fixed bid" contract unless you take your best estimate, double it, and add 25% to the total. 8. Never pursue a project in which you will do less than "break even" for prestige. 7. Provide an environment in which your employees can be heard. 6. Listen to your employees. 5. Never take on a project that, you know in your heart, you can't pull off. 4. Ensure customer sat, customer sat, and finally, customer sat. 3. Be aware of your market and don't, under any circumstances, cut your rates. 2. Hire good people and pay them appropriately. and the number one thing consultancies should do... 1. Invest, rather than become obsessed with, the money. Now, in reverse order, the reason that consultancies with which I have been involved have failed (omitting the "private sector" job and ESC): 6. Second incarnation of former IBM agent firm, lost confidence of employees, panicked when employees were out of work and cut rates below ability to support expenses, having put no money back from the "good times". Two locations, 20+ employees. 5. Former IBM agent firm, lost focus when agent program fell apart, owner spent most profits on personal items/salary, supporting unprofitable software purchased from a major provider. Also sued everyone that comitted a "perceived" slight. Two locations, 30+ employees. 4. IBM Business Partner, fell apart when owner let personal problems interfere with business. Owner refused to cut her salary while doing the same for everyone else. Tried to diversify into areas in which company had no reputation. One location, 7 employees. 3. Company owned in majority by person that had no idea about how to run a computer company. Owner sent self to "prestige" technical conferences at great expense, sent technical employees to conferences in undesirable areas which were cheaper and also had less participation by knowledgeable persons/vendors. (eg., owner went to Mexico City, Honolulu, and Hong Kong while employees went to Oconomowok WI, SLC Utah, and KC MI). Owner returned with no knowledge from conferences, as he spent most of his time on the golf course. One location, 5 employees. 2. Company sought additional owners due to President's inability to go without a (substantial) paycheck during two recessions, despite the fact that said owner didn't own a home or have substantial revolving credit. Ended up being absorbed under item 3. Company formed from former employees of 1. One location, 5 employees. 1. Company that got hacked at DEC because DEC would compete directly with them on government contracts. Changed to platform under 2 and 3. Officers were paying themselves very well, while technical staff got the proverbial "jack". Company fell apart when president died of a heart attack while duck hunting at age 38, and banks yanked all lines of credit. One location, 10 employees. In case you didn't notice a theme above, it was greed. People refusing to pay people decent wages, provide decent benefits, or pay for training because all they saw was the $ being brought in. Companies that didn't put back for the bad times, and did not provide a future for their employees. All folded, and all deserved to. With the exception of the one where the boss went nuts over personal issues (and others have seen this plenty in other industries), the big thing seems to be setting the money aside for necessary education and support during "slow periods". Save your money, compensate your employees, provide education, and turn down accounts that want your services for nothing. In the latter instance, you didn't really _NEED_ the business. Good luck with your consultancy... Regards! Dean Asmussen Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc. Fuquay-Varina, NC USA E-Mail: DAsmussen@aol.com "A man can fail many times, but he is not a failure until he begins to blame somebody else." -- John Burroughs +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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