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  • Subject: Re: 5010 tape drive question..
  • From: Chuck Lewis <CLEWIS@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:14:42 -0400

Mike,

Oh YA - I was comparing it to the 3490, but you REALLY saw a jump in your move
(because I remember to jump from 3480 to 3490 - not quite as dramatic but every
liitle bit helped back then !!)...

Chuck

Mike Shaw wrote:

> Chuck,
>
> Yes, the 2 3590 drives are shared among 4 AS/400's.  We have 1 AS/400 that
> is still on 3480 cartridges...A full system backup is only 8 cartridges on
> it.
>
> 3590 technology over 3480: Greatest invention since popcorn!   :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Shaw
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Lewis <CLEWIS@IQUEST.NET>
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 6:39 AM
> Subject: Re: 5010 tape drive question..
>
> >THAT's a "handful"...
> >
> >Are you sharing multiple 3590's ? I guess if this is for backup only, a
> tape
> >"robot" would be hard to justify (whereas if it was near online it would be
> >"easier") ?
> >
> >I know ONE thing (if you were doing this in the 3490 days) - you HAD to
> love the
> >day the 3590 came out !!!  I remember how OUR tape usage dropped for full
> saves,
> >etc. <BG> !!
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >Mike Shaw wrote:
> >
> >> Chuck,
> >>
> >> No, just alot of data....over 450 Gb across 5 AS/400's...soon to be 6 and
> >> 550 gb!
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Chuck Lewis <CLEWIS@IQUEST.NET>
> >> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> >> Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 5:34 PM
> >> Subject: Re: 5010 tape drive question..
> >>
> >> >WOOOOOOOO !
> >> >
> >> >Dude !
> >> >
> >> >You have a MAJOR tape library I take it ? Or are you on an 365+ day
> >> rotation plan
> >> >:-)
> >> >
> >> >Chuck
> >> >
> >> >Mike Shaw wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> We did over 400 in our first initialize phase!  :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike Shaw
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Chuck Lewis <CLEWIS@IQUEST.NET>
> >> >> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> >> >> Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 1:47 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: 5010 tape drive question..
> >> >>
> >> >> >Ya, I'm suprised to hear what the CE is saying too.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >We had TONS of 3590 cartridges and I would initialize 10 or so at a
> time
> >> >> (normally)
> >> >> >and I don't recall ever seeing the 3590 ask to be cleaned anymore
> than
> >> it
> >> >> normally
> >> >> >did (?)...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Chuck
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Don wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Yo Dude!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yeah, this would kinda scare me in to thinking that SOMETHING is
> >> >> scrubbing
> >> >> >> the oxide from my mylar!  I'm not sure I buy your CE's reasoning
> right
> >> >> >> now...  If this were true, we should have gotten this kind of
> problem
> >> all
> >> >> >> along throughout the years....
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Don in DC....
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Mike Shaw wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Don,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I have seen this with 3590's as well....CE explained it as new
> >> >> cartridges
> >> >> >> > leaving a lot of residue and the end result being that cleanings
> are
> >> >> more
> >> >> >> > frequent as a result initially....Does make sense if you look at
> it
> >> in
> >> >> terms
> >> >> >> > of initializing the cartridges plus any save/restore
> activity...In
> >> our
> >> >> case,
> >> >> >> > it did get back to a more normal cleaning cycle once we got
> through
> >> the
> >> >> >> > initialization process.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If you are still uncomfortable, check the error log and the
> volume
> >> >> stats via
> >> >> >> > SST...If there are no perm or temp errors being logged, attribute
> it
> >> to
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > new cartridges and just keep an eye on it.  It should decrease.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > HTH,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Mike Shaw
> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> > From: Don <dr2@access.digex.net>
> >> >> >> > To: midrange-l@midrange.com <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> >> >> >> > Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 10:41 AM
> >> >> >> > Subject: 5010 tape drive question..
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >Greetings,
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >we've got a client with a 5010 tape drive and I'm getting ALOT
> of
> >> the
> >> >> >> > >"clean the tape drive" light coming on.  This is a new drive and
> >> new
> >> >> >> > >tapes.  Is there a known problem here or am I the only one
> having
> >> this
> >> >> >> > >scenerio??
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >Don in DC
> >> >> >> > >
> >>
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