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Amen and Amen! When I was starting out, the company I worked for put me on telephone support for their Sys36 line of products...like on the FIRST *&$^# DAY!! I did spend a good deal of time w/my nose in a manual and puzzeling out code, but I'd have killed for a resource like this list. To say nothing of my self taught efforts to move on to the Sys38-AS/400. The Sys36 was/is a great box, but it was very apparent that the AS/400 was the coming technology both from IBM and from my company. Unfortunately, assistance and mentoring was not to be found...those persons "fortunate" enough to have been assigned to the "cool & new stuff" were not willing to share their knowledge. I think probably they were proctecting "turf" and their personal value to the company, but whatever the reason I was forced to beg, borrow, plead, and steal just to get a /400 signon. From there I was on my own...I ouldn't even get people to loan me a manual, much less point out some of the more glaring errors I made. Maybe my experience is rare, but from that day forward I have always sworn to be the answer man to the best of my ability, no matter how "dumb" the question might be. True, my favorite acronym is RTFM, but even if the answer is in the manual, pointing the newbie to the correct book and explaining what they're looking at really means is the type of encouragement that will lead to more and more experimentation. If we really want the /400 to become the widespread force it can and should be, discouraging "newbie" questions appears IMHO to be counterproductive in the extreme! Scott Cornell Mercy Information Systems >>> <DAsmussen@aol.com> 10/09/98 04:26am >>> Hello All, I may be wrong here but would like to start a discussion, if warranted, on the above subject. In other words, respond to the list if you take issue with what I'm about to say, _NOT_ offline. There have been several questions posted lately from AS/400 newbies and, frankly, I was _APPALLED_ at some of your responses. Try to remember that the majority of AS/400 _PROFESSIONALS_ couldn't find this list (or anything else on the Internet) with both hands and a flashlight. Those of you that have moved from RPG or COBOL to OO should recall how difficult _that_ transition was at first -- just try to imagine moving the _OTHER_ way. Granted some of the questions were a little lower-level than we are used to seeing here; however, IMO this list is for the free exchange of information regarding the AS/400 and IBM midrange systems at large to _ALL_ people regardless of talent level (or employment situation). Also IMO, get used to it -- thanks in part to the efforts of people here, more people are discovering the AS/400 that are already OO/Internet-savvy, and those forced into 3GL's will inevitably ask questions like these. If you don't have anything constructive to say and its' not a "spammer", please don't say anything at all -- we need all the AS/400 talent we can get...at _ALL_ levels... JMHO, Dean Asmussen Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc. Fuquay-Varina, NC USA E-Mail: DAsmussen@aol.com "I feel like a fugitive from the law of averages." -- Bill Mauldin +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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