Re: Thin Clients and the AS/400 -- MIDRANGE-L

Talk about memory issues.  We upgraded our network station support and had many 
network stations not able to work.
We checked the documentation, and, yes, it is documented in the new netstation 
support, but what a rush job 
finding memory to upgrade the netstations.
Old                                                     New
5648B08 IBM Network Station Browser                     dropped
5648B10 Navio NC Navigator                              5648C20
5733A07 IBM Network Station Manager for AS/400  5648C05
The new netstation manager is required under V4R3 of the operating system.




MBOCEANSIDE@postoffice.worldnet.att.net on 09/24/98 09:32:12 AM
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Rob Berendt wrote:

> 3)  How often do you have to call in for support on Netstations?  Frankly IBM 
>support on Netstations is the pits.  

Just a few observations on Network Stations:

I put a few in for a customer who "had" to have some.. right after
announcement...

1. Support did not exist
2. Manuals changed so often, it was recommended to download new one
every month...
3. WinCenter  WAS the reason for this purchase !!!!!

   One little problem, WinCenter in it's shipped version DID NOT support
   IBM Network Stations.... WinCenter support folks were just as
surprised
   as anybody that IBM had told folks that this was THE product....
Those
   same folks were the ones that built the network stations for
IBM......

4. The Network Station Manager on the 400 did change weekly in the early
days...

5. The basic Network Stations as shipped, didn't have enough memory to
run
   Network Station Manager, which you really needed to config
stations....

6. IF you only need emulation, they work fine.... if you can EVER get
all
   the parts and pieces installed(MANY PTF'S)

7. After 60 days, we had 5 stations up and running... using WinCenter
   Pro to access W/95 apps and 5250 emualtion to access 400....

8. After all that, I didn't have the nerve to suggest that we use this
   mess to access the web.........

The customer had spent over 10,000 for ethernet adapater for 400, NT
Server,
network stations, cat 5 cabling, hubs, fiber links between
building,etc,etc

I had HIGH hopes for this product, but, after that ordeal, I was ashamed
to
ever go back to this customers business....

IBM had a fine idea... they just forgot to finish the product before
shipping....
and they forgot to put anybody in charge that division.....

This may explain why they were recently giving these away if you bought
a
new 400........ really a shame for all concerned.........
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