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  • Subject: RE: [Survey] What would you like to ask IBM about RPG certification?
  • From: "Stone, Brad V (TC)" <bvstone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:46:18 -0500

ROTFL!

I'd like to know if everyone at IBM Rochester has taken the the tests,
and how many actually passed the first time.  But I probably won't ask
it...heheh..

Thanks for the input, Don.  :)

Brad

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don [SMTP:dr2@access.digex.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 3:50 PM
> To:   DAsmussen@aol.com
> Cc:   MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject:      Re: [Survey] What would you like to ask IBM about RPG
> certification?
> 
> 
> Frankly,
> 
> I'ld rather see them Certify that their "business partner's" software
> ACTUALLY WORKS!  ...THAT's the kinda certification that would make the
> most use to me!
> 
> Don in DC
> 
> 
> On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 DAsmussen@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > Brad,
> > 
> > In a message dated 98-09-21 16:33:08 EDT, you write:
> > 
> > > I'm putting together an article for MC that is sort of a Q&A with
> IBM
> > >  about the benifits or pitfalls of RPG Certification.  
> > 
> > Congratulations!
> > 
> > >  If you wanted to ask IBM a question, what would it be?  Things
> like "Why
> > >  should I be certified if I already have a degree?" or "I don't
> use SEU,
> > >  so why should the questions on the test about SEU effect my final
> > >  score?".  Anything you want.  
> > <<snip>>
> > 
> > The "why should I be certified if I already have a degree" question
> is pretty
> > self-evident.  Saaawwwrrrrreeee, but I've dealt with numerous people
> with even
> > advanced degrees that couldn't write a decent piece of code to save
> their
> > lives.  Programming is an art, and "ya' either got it or you don't".
> But that
> > wasn't your question.
> > 
> > IBM has tried to develop an "ability-neutral" certification test.  I
> believe
> > that the latter is a fool's pursuit.  There are just _FAR_ too many
> different
> > "flavors" of RPG sites for any one test to serve them all well.  Use
> CODE/400
> > or VA/RPG?  SEU questions are worthless.  Vice-versa is worthless as
> well.
> > ILE sites rarely use RPG/400 and vice-versa.  I would propose that
> there be an
> > "editor" test seperate of the "language certification" test, and
> would ask IBM
> > why RPG isn't seperated into its' various disciplines...
> > 
> > JMHO,
> > 
> > Dean Asmussen
> > Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc.
> > Fuquay-Varina, NC  USA
> > E-Mail:  DAsmussen@aol.com
> > 
> > "A man who is not a liberal in his youth has no heart.  A man who is
> not
> > conservative in his later years has no brain." -- Otto Van Bismarck
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