Re: [Survey] What would you like to ask IBM about RPG certification? -- MIDRANGE-L

I agree. This MIGHT have been possible 6 or 7 years ago and could (?) have 
applied
to the majority of folks programming, but with RPG/400, ILE, VRPG, Case Tools
(which of course REAL programmers don't use <BG>), CODE/400, SQL and the ability
to get data from multiple sources/platforms through ODBC and C/A transfer, FTP,
etc. - NO WAY !!

And it could WELL turn into the mess that Novell had with their "paper CNE's" a
few years back (and of course the SAME mistake that Microsoft is reinventing 
with
their certification program...).

Chuck

DAsmussen@aol.com wrote:

> Brad,
>
> In a message dated 98-09-21 16:33:08 EDT, you write:
>
> > I'm putting together an article for MC that is sort of a Q&A with IBM
> >  about the benifits or pitfalls of RPG Certification.
>
> Congratulations!
>
> >  If you wanted to ask IBM a question, what would it be?  Things like "Why
> >  should I be certified if I already have a degree?" or "I don't use SEU,
> >  so why should the questions on the test about SEU effect my final
> >  score?".  Anything you want.
> <<snip>>
>
> The "why should I be certified if I already have a degree" question is pretty
> self-evident.  Saaawwwrrrrreeee, but I've dealt with numerous people with even
> advanced degrees that couldn't write a decent piece of code to save their
> lives.  Programming is an art, and "ya' either got it or you don't".  But that
> wasn't your question.
>
> IBM has tried to develop an "ability-neutral" certification test.  I believe
> that the latter is a fool's pursuit.  There are just _FAR_ too many different
> "flavors" of RPG sites for any one test to serve them all well.  Use CODE/400
> or VA/RPG?  SEU questions are worthless.  Vice-versa is worthless as well.
> ILE sites rarely use RPG/400 and vice-versa.  I would propose that there be an
> "editor" test seperate of the "language certification" test, and would ask IBM
> why RPG isn't seperated into its' various disciplines...
>
> JMHO,
>
> Dean Asmussen
> Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc.
> Fuquay-Varina, NC  USA
> E-Mail:  DAsmussen@aol.com
>
> "A man who is not a liberal in his youth has no heart.  A man who is not
> conservative in his later years has no brain." -- Otto Van Bismarck
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