Re: IBM 4312 Network 12 Printer

[Danny Mc? <question@xxxxxxx>]

We've had the 4317's for about 2 years now.  All are twinax attached to the
AS/400.  They are comming off lease at the end of the month and we are finally
getting rid of them!  Thank God!

[ soapbox mode on ]
These have been the biggest pieces of crap!!!  I just love how they periodically
forget all the settings!  Had one do that to me today.  It just resets itself
back to factory default.  They cannot recover from paper jams.  You have to end
the writer, power cycle the printer and restart the print writer.  If they were
such good printers, why would IBM be looking at selling off their printer
division just 2 years after releasing printers to the public?  They tried making
a deal with Cannon but Cannon turned them down.  I cannot speak for the 
InfoPrint
line, only the Network Printer 17.
[ soapbox mode off ]

I am switching over to HP LaserJet's  (5si, 5siMX, 4000N  & 8000N).
Unfortunately, we still have IPDS applications so we are buying the Blue Kit 
IPDS
SIMM's from MPI for these printers.  The initial purchase price is more 
expensive
but reliability is far superior and on-going toner expense is much cheaper!
HP5si/MX --> $145    4317  --> $190

Danny Mc?


mcrump@ballfoster.com wrote:

> >>On Thursday, August 13, 1998 1:17 PM, Eric [SMTP:Eric@norcov.com] wrote:
> >>   Did you buy the internal Ethernet card with the printer or did you go
> >>   with a Jet Direct?  $300 for an Ethernet card seems a tad pricey.
> >
> >Internal card.  I'm not familiar with the pricing; I just have to make 'em
> >put toner on paper!  :-)
>
> We use 4317's, 4324's, and the new 4320's and love them.  Only reason we
> haven't bought the 4312 is the lack of output bin full sensor (we kill
> trees and
> use their paper at night unattended) We have been installing the internal
> ETH
> and TRN cards because of some odd issues with the Jet Direct in our
> environment.  Every once in a while we had some error issues and have to
> 'reset' the Jet Direct.  To be honest I'm not sure if it was directly
> related to the
> Jet Direct or not but our PC people got tired of it and nobody really cared
> about
> the expense level..........(that is a rarity here).
>
> Michael Crump
> Technical Project Leader
> Ball-Foster Glass Container Corp.
>
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