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Rob, Can you explain the difference between a Neural database and Neural network? Also how does connectionism fit in? I have played with genetic algorithms and programs. I have worked on many applications where genetic algorithms provide much benefit. Most of our problems seem to work with discrete sets of data. What sorts of problems do a Neural database and connectionism lend themselves to? What about the application development process itself? In my experience the biggest gains in application development come when a common solution can be applied to many problems. The challenging part is recognizing a recurring pattern and building a common solution. This has been an iterative process for me with an occasional gain in productivity. I would like to see how connectionism could be used in our environment. Thanks for your input, David Morris >>> "Rob Dixon" <rob.dixon@erros.co.uk> 07/27 2:54 PM >>> I have been off-line for several days, driving through France, and am now slowly catching up with my e-mail. It is interesting how many posts the "Design shift of view" thread, started by James Kilgore, has acquired in the meantime. There are many good points that I could pick up on, but if I am only to choose one, it would be that from John Hall dated 23 July. I quote - > To my view all you really need is one "data type." This data type would > then describe all other data types. All rules essentially become data. This certainly ties in with my experience and implementation of the Neural Database. More importantly, it also, in my view, ties in with the human brain. All of us, particularly in the IT field, have some ability to understand information of a type not understood by our parents, so I assume that we did not inherit genetically this specific ability. Instead I assume that we inherited a more general ability which allows our brains to cope with a great variety of "data types" by treating all data types as one and the same - i.e. a "universal data type". The tools that we have used historically in the computer industry, have perhaps, because we do not understand the mechanisms of the brain, made us differentiate between "things" that are really the same. Unless you believe that someone is making separate decisions about every human brain for each new type of information and deciding how and where in our brains each new type is to be handled (i.e. reprogramming each individual brain separately), our brains must treat all as the same. I quote a very recent article in the British "Sunday Telegraph" by Stephen Hawking - in the UK at least, the best known theoretical physicist, even though most people who have heard of him, including me, are not sure what theoretical physics is - "Humanity is making great advances in science and technology, and the pace of change is quickening. I recently gave a lecture at the White House to an audience that included the Clintons. I argued that ..... progess will continue at an ever-increasing rate. In this situation, it is vital that we all take part in the debate about where we are going. We don't want the knowledge and the decisions to be left to a few experts." In our own small real-world ( I of course think it is very large and important!), we have started our own, vital, debate. When we have all learnt all that we can, at this stage, learn, we will be as well equipped as we ever will be to make decisions about the way our industry is to move forward and so how we can best serve our users who are not necessarily equipped to make such technical decisions. If we are not to hold back society (word-wide, not just our own local versions), we must make those decisions fairly soon. Making decisions means making judgements and taking risk - putting our necks on the line. But the worst decision of all, and the most risky, is not to make one at all. I do not believe that we can stay as we are. Rob Dixon ---------- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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