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On Monday, July 27, 1998 11:28 AM, Rob Dixon [SMTP:rob.dixon@erros.co.uk] wrote: > Buck > > I am glad that you find looking at our industry from a broadened > viewpoint > to be of value. Every place I've worked for has been somewhat isolationist; budgetary restraints lead to a more narrow view of things. Without looking outward and onward, we'll never learn about more efficient ways to do things. So, for me, even if I never use any of the things we're talking about in this thread, at least I'm listening and combatting the isolationist tendencies... > I entirely sympathise with your view on new paradigms and your wish to > highlight similarities between methods rather than differences. I agree > that this would make the sale easier. > > My first reaction however was that it was not possible since the > connectionist methods of the Neural Database are so different from > traditional computing methods. Then it occurred to me that before > computers, our method was of course to rely on the human brain. > Connectionism is based on the brain, so we might describe its use in > computing as a "return to basics" as much as a new paradigm. > > Do you think that this approach might help? Yes, I do think this is a helpful concept. I've learnt all too late that even the very best of ideas are subject to the political process: if you can't sell it, it's not going to happen. AI has always been something of a hobby for me. I had the honour of speaking with Marvin Minsky in 1986, and he's quite a character. He refers to the human/brain combination as a "meat machine." By which he means that with proper study, we should be able to disassemble, understand it and make it better (as the lever is better than the elbow.) This school of thought is countered by the "mind is greater than the sum of it's parts" school; meaning that there is some intangible "essence" about it that cannot be captured, understood and bettered. Rather than risk starting an unrelated philosophical debate, let me say that I think it's almost irrelevant which school is right; the question at hand is whether a *more* mind-like approach is better able to adapt to modern MIS needs than the *less* mind-like (mathematical) models we use now. Offhand, I'd say that if connectionism is to advance from a small research effort to a mature product, there needs to be publicity (It's the marketing!) and actual applications software out in the field (demo copies?) The trick is in quantifying how much better it is to solve a business problem with the connectionism model versus the relational model. Buck Calabro Commsoft, Albany, NY mailto:mcalabro@commsoft.net +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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