Java on the AS/400

I have been following this thread with interest.  I would like to keep
my skills up to date (who wouldn't?) and was wondering what language
would be best combined with my RPG and little bit of COBOL knowledge.  

I admit my ignorance....is Java the same whether it is on a PC or on the
AS/400?

Donna Zukowski
Year 2000 Project Manager
BIC Corporation

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Boldt [SMTP:boldt@ca.ibm.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 2:23 PM
> To:   MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject:      Re: Re[2]: RPG TALENT--Global issue
> 
> Sorry, but I can't take a bow. In my opinion, the preferred
> language on the AS/400 will become Java.  Java is big, and
> getting bigger.  It's a more important language now after 3
> years of development than C++ was after the same period of
> time. And rightfully so. Since it omits the ugly features of
> C++, programmers can be at least twice as productive using
> Java.  Because the JVM on the AS/400 is second to none, many
> of us here believe Java is destined to greatness on that
> machine.
> 
> Will RPG disappear?  No, of course not.  There's too much
> RPG code out there.  Unfortunately, RPG still lacks such
> important modern programming features as OOP and type
> definitions (after 40 years) and probably never will have.
> As a result, over time, less and less new code will be
> written in RPG.
> 
> BTW, I've been learning Java in my spare time and I've never
> had so much fun programming!
> 
> Cheers!  Hans
> 
> Hans Boldt, ILE RPG Development, IBM Toronto Lab, boldt@ca.ibm.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> owner-midrange-l@midrange.com on 98-05-28 11:40:35
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> Subject: Re[2]: RPG TALENT--Global issue
> 
> 
> 
> Seems to me that RPG _CAN_AND_WILL_ remain the preferred programming
> language on
> the AS400. ILE RPG overcomes most of the restrictions we've had to
> deal with in
> the past, and IMO, has become every bit as robust and flexible as "C"
> and its
> cousins "C++" and "Java". Hats off to the crew at Toronto (Hans, take
> a bow).
> 
> Personally, I'd rather have to run naked through a briar patch than
> have to code
> apps in "C". (Then again, coding C could be like running naked in a
> briar
> patch.... lots of pointers)
> 
> Why is everyone so sure that the talent pool for AS400 is diminishing?
> Like
> everything else, when PC programmers are falling all over themselves
> competing
> with forty other applicants for a single programming position that
> pays barely
> over minimum wage, there's going to be a steady migration toward other
> systems,
> such as the as400.
> 
> Eric A DeLong
> ericadelong@pmsc.com
> 
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> RPG may have been our legacy but it certainly shouldn't - and won't -
> be our
> future. So why not give a 'C' course on the AS/400? That way we can
> teach
> familiarity with the machine and the operating system - far more
> valuable
> commodities than some rudimentary RPG.
> >
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> Tim  what  might the market  be for that skill today?
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