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Paul Musselmann recently mentioned Help System's Robot products in response to this question. Let me add my 2 cents about that. About 18 months ago, I evaluated Help System's paging product as part of a project to un-staff my night shift. I figured since they have market-share they MUST be a reputable company. I was wrong. Here's what happend: I loaded the program, according to the directions, as QSECOFR. I fully realize that this, in itself can be suspect and I should (and did) require my software NOT to need QSECOFR for any reason. However, I also realize that this is sometime the best way to load software, when the person doing the load may not have the legitimately needed authorities to do the setup (e.g. *IOSYSCFG for comm configuration, etc) under their own profile - even though they may have all the authority they need to run the product. So I loaded. And I found that their install program, WITH NO FOREWARNING OR PERMISSION, in the documentation or on a screen at install time, CHANGED MY QSYSLIBL. They PUT RBTSYSADM (or some such library name, their baseline library at any rate) AH EAD OF QSYS in my qsyslibl WITH *PUBLIC *CHANGE authority. Needlless to say I was not happy. I was even less happy when I discovered *2* SYSTEM-STATE MI programs in their libraries. I was told by their tech support that 'this is the only way' they can make their function run - but in the case of at least one of those programs they simply needed the correct MI command. When I called them on these two intrusions, questioning the whys and wherefores I was told that they do this for their customers' convenience and that they didn't need my business (I was in state government at the time) if I didn't like the way they wrote their code. That came from one of their Vice Presidents. They didn't get my business. I don't do business with hackers who hide under the covers of "this is the only way" and "our customers want the convenience". For those who want to know, my business went to MBA for their Page Manager product. Yes, they needed QSECOFR to load - but only for the ease in creating line/controller/device descriptions. And, when I called them they explained in great detail what happend in their installation program and why - to the extent of faxing me their source code to review. I found their tech reps easy to work with and genuinely concerned with not only making life easier for their customers but also respecting their customers' security requirements. Laura Ausel - Keane, Inc., Service Partner "Do something. Lead, follow, or get out of the way." +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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