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Chris, Sounds like you have two options: 1) Fire them and hire new programmers. 2) Order a model upgrade for the AS/400 (the old "throw more hardware at the problem" solution). :-) OK - maybe a third option: Send them away for some education so they can learn what they are doing wrong. Neil Palmer AS/400~~~~~ NxTrend Technology - Canada ____________ ___ ~ Thornhill, Ontario, Canada |OOOOOOOOOO| ________ o|__||= Phone: (905) 731-9000 x238 |__________|_|______|_|______) Cell.: (416) 565-1682 x238 oo oo oo oo OOOo=o\ Fax: (905) 731-9202 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mailto:NPalmer@NxTrend.com AS/400 The Ultimate Business Server http://www.NxTrend.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Spirinckx Chris [SMTP:chris.spirinckx@club.innet.be] > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 3:50 PM > To: midrange-l@midrange.com > Subject: Inquiry : Queries and number of ODPs in programs > > > Fellow-midrangers, > > A colleague and I are responsible for 2 AS/400 ( 620/600 ). > One of our tasks is of course the tuning of those systems. > > Currently we're having 2 "hot" discussions with the programmers : > > 1) Usage of RUNQRY-command. > --------------------------- > We think that this command should mainly be used by the DP-staff > itself > (testing purposes ) or for ad-hoc reports. > The programmers on the otherhand are using this command in practicly > 50 % > of the applications > (including interactive ones ). > Some of the batchjobs are 5 or more RUNQRY-commands that run after > each > other in order to produce one single query-report. > They say : "its easy to use and with minimum on effort". > The course about SQL has just finished, we're shaking already. > > 2) Number of ODPs in a program. > ------------------------------- > We try to encourage them to us as less ACCPTHs in a program as > possible. ( > whatever that means ). > What we cannot understand is that a simple report needs 40 or more > ODPs and > some applications uses more than 100 ODPs (yes, hundred). > > We have about 120 interactive users ( still growing ) and 10 > batch-programs > running simultaneous. > > When we say that the users are complaining about the response-times, > the > programmers cannot understand that it is due to the usage of > RUNQRY-cmd and > the number of ODPs open in the jobs. > > > > > What are your opinions and did you have similar discussions ?? > > > > Many thanks, > > Chris > > > ====================================================================== > === > Chris Spirinckx # E-mail live : > chris.spirinckx@club.innet.be > F. van Eedenplein 4a/5 # E-mail work : > chris_spirinckx@pee.pioneer.be > B2050 Antwerpen # Tel/Fax : + 32 3 219.09.12 > BELGIUM (Europe) # > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to > MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: > david@midrange.com > +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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