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  • Subject: RE: EMC DASD (wasCISC to RISC conversion of data)
  • From: Neil Palmer <npalmer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:06:11 -0600

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Mahadevan [SMTP:mahadevan@fuse.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 7:19 PM
> To:   MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject:      Re: EMC DASD (wasCISC to RISC conversion of data)
> 
> 
> 
> Al Barsa, Jr. wrote:
> 
> > At 11:05 AM 4/8/98 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Neil:
> > >
> > >Neil Palmer wrote:
> > >
> > >> So, IMHO, the reason 3rd party disk is cheaper, is because IT'S
> NO
> > BLOODY GOOD
> > >> !!!!
> > >
> > >I hate to disagree with this statement.  But the truth is EMC DASD
> is as good
> > >as.  They have grabbed a huge market share and growing by leaps and
> > bounds.  The
> > >customers are all not that stupid, right?  I have used their DASD
> without
> > >trouble.  OTOH, 3 of my 9332-600 failed.   Everybody of course
> knows the
> > >fantastic unreliability of 9335.   Blanket statements like this
> only cause
> > >misunderstanding.  I believe all DASD manufacturers try their best.
> I do
> > >believe that mirroring now is the best choice considering the price
> of
> > DASD in
> > >general to avoid disk crashes (been there done that).
> > >
> > I agree with Neil, and disagree with Dave.
> >
> > The AS/400 is an integrated system, and buying everything from one
> vendor
> > means that you have one person to contact when you have a failure.
> >
> > EMC has significantly de-emphasized the midrange marketplace.
> >
> > Here's a good test.  Find out the street price to buy a new IBM DASD
> unit
> > (like a 9337), and a comparable third party unit (EMC, IPL, who
> else).
> > Then have another company call around (so that the 'buyer' and
> 'seller' are
> > not associated) to see how much you could re-sell the new-unused
> unit for.
> >
> > You'd be amazed at the difference in value.
> >
> 
> Unfortunately Al, most users dont buy to resell unless you are an IR
> or BP.  It is
> true that the resale market for non-IBM product is thin.  But that
> should not
> preclude your judgment in buying non-IBM equipment.  Unfortunately,
> IBM created a
> high priced market place and users have to find a method to get the
> job done at a
> reasonable price.  Now, you are going to tell me "you get what you pay
> for", but
> the truth is price is not always the best reliability & durability
> indicator.
> Price, service, quality all play an important role in selection.  Just
> my 2 cents.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Thank You.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dave Mahadevan.. mailto:mahadevan@fuse.net
> 
> Well Dave, if you just have 2 cents to buy DASD with, I guess EMC was
> the right choice !    :-)
> 
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