RE: CODE/400 -- MIDRANGE-L

Just my 2 cents, Code/400 is a replacement for SEU.  And will 
work with ANY of the AS/400 languages.  Including RPG, but also 
ILE/C, Cobol, etc.

The question is not do you want/use RPG.  The question is "do 
you use SEU".  If you use SEU, then you should look at Code/400. 

If you use a proprietary editor that is imbedded in your Case 
tool (such as Synon), then Code/400 will not help you.

Regards,
Bob Crothers
Cornerstone Communications

-----Original Message-----
From:   DAsmussen [SMTP:DAsmussen@aol.com]
Sent:   Tuesday, March 10, 1998 3:52 PM
To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject:        Re: CODE/400

Chris,

In a message dated 98-03-10 02:18:55 EST, you write:

<<snip>>
> Code/400s primary purpose is not a PC or GUI application 
developer, for
>  that there is VisualAge for Java, VisualAge Generator, 
VisualAge for
>  Basic, etc. Code/400 is for editing RPG code using a PC based 
editor that
>  allows many extra features by taking advantage of the PC 
environment for
>  developing.
>
>  Does that make more sense? Can you see why, in this case, the 
cost
>  justification should be how much development time it saves 
for RPG
>  programmers?

I understood what CODE did from the beginning.  That's why I 
told Jon that,
were I still in the business of selling application software 
and/or had a shop
full of RPG developers, I'd buy CODE/400 in a heartbeat.  What I 
was trying to
illustrate was that, in the last 3 major clients I've had, the 
AS/400 was the
"minority" platform -- far outnumbered by DEC's, HP's, Tandems, 
ES/9K's, you
name it.  With a few exceptions, the majority of the developers 
I've worked
with at these sites were yanked off of the other platforms and 
cannot read the
RPG that the AS/Set CASE tool generates -- so why would they 
care that their
GUI tool generated RPG?

These sites also generally have an "approved tool/language" list 
from
Corporate, into which AS/Set gets proxied only because their 
chosen MRP II
application is written in it.  Nine times out of ten, 
Headquarters would
prefer something like Synon that generated an approved language 
such as COBOL.
With today's development focus (other than Y2K) focused on 
developing C/S
applications, why would one of these clients choose an 
unapproved tool that
generates an unapproved language that the majority of their 
developers cannot
read?

Yes, if you are an all-RPG shop, with all-RPG developers (that 
are all happy
to remain so), CODE is _GREAT_.  If you have an all-RPG 
application that you
need to rapidly "ramp-up" to C/S, CODE is great.  If you didn't 
want RPG in
your shop in the first place, maybe CODE isn't so great.  And 
no, most things
beginning with "VA/" are _NOT_ on the "approved tools" list at 
these clients
-- even the die-hard mainframers remember getting burned by 
CSP/AE...

In closing, I'd like to apologize to both you and the rest of 
the list for the
tone of my last missive on this subject.  It appears that the 
flu, once it's
through with your immune system, goes to work on your 
self-control and tact
;-)...

Regards!

Dean Asmussen
Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc.
Fuquay-Varina, NC  USA
E-Mail:  DAsmussen@aol.com

"After thirty, a body has a mind of its own." -- Bette Midler

P.S.  Hope you're feeling better as well ;-)...
root
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