RE: Sources for External Data Structures

["John Bussert" <JohnBussert@xxxxxxx>]

Peter,

I agree that ILE is ugaly and a problem to debug.  But guess what - welcome to 
object oriented technology.  Like it or not it is here.  Reusability of 
objects means that there are lots of objects (bits of code) that can work 
great if they work great, and can be a real pain in the tail if they do not.  
We do a lot of work in OO stuff (Java, C++ etc.) and there are times when it 
is wonderful, but it is much more difficult to find a problem.

Thanks,

jb


John Bussert
Swift Technologies, Inc.
847-289-8339
jbussert@stecnet.com


-----Original Message-----
From:   mcsnet!midrange.com!midrange-l-owner@Mcs.Net  On Behalf Of O'Connor, 
Peter H.
Sent:   Thursday, June 26, 1997 7:03 PM
To:     "Hans Boldt"
Cc:     MIDRANGE-L
Subject:        Re: Sources for External Data Structures

I am responding to Hans Boldt comments on ILE.  I think the basic concept of 
ILE
is great.  However, I think it is ugaly.  Ugaly is 1,000 times worse than 
ugly.
As a developer, it is hopeless.  If a client calls up with a problem and u 
have
to debug the pgm, good luck. What line number do u use?   Do you want to give
all your clients your source, NO.  We worked with a client and they keep 
saying
they had a problem.  We had NO way of debuging.  We compiled the pgm and 
shipped
them the new pgm and SRC.  Now we went into debug mode after 3 hours and found
out that it was a user error.  UGH.  If this is progress, then we need the
rosetta stone back.    ILE is OK for inhouse operations.  It is very very very
bad for software vendors.  IBM should look at debugging as a major problem and
get their head out of the sand.  Line number are very, very very, very, very
very important.  However, Toronto must not think so.

Peter H. O'Connor
PAE
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