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I too, have found myself reading the thread and agree with Gord Royle's analysis in spending time learning "business" and the interaction with data. I began 25 years ago with the System/III sys/34/36/38 as/400 ect. programming COBOL & RPG. Quit the W2 chase in 1997, did 1099 for a very shot time then decided to incorporate myself as a computer service provider for niche type clients with 500+ employees in southwest US.. At the end of 2005 I changed my "computer service provider" title to "business consultant". Last year I had 125,000.00 of billable time with past clients as a consultant. No coding, no purchasing, no employees! One must diversify to survive.

Leif Johnson, Business Consultant
SilverBullet Computer Services, Inc.





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I've been reading this whole string with interest (and a little humour). To think, the whole thing with the subject line of "A National Discussion" was started by a Canadian. Most of us (from Canada) have more difficulty getting in to the U.S. to work than if we were born in Poland or China. The annual "green card" lottery is proof of that. We are not eligible. I bet he's laughing a little too.

When we all were kids, our parents talked to us about the "facts of life". What they didn't tell us, because they didn't know, was that out-sourcing, whether it be on-shore or off-shore, would be a fact of life too. I'm a damn (oops) good CoBoL programmer, a mediochre RPG programmer and don't know squat about C# and some of the newer ones (but I'm learning). What I do know very well is how business works and how systems and data interact with one another. At my age, if I'd locked myself in to any kind of programming, I'd be left far, far behind by the young bucks coming up and hungry to take my job. What I decided to do instead is understand the business and, more importantly, the data behind the business. It may be a very controversial statement but there are very few programmer's out there that can truly see the global picture. Those are the jobs that will be "sent out". If you want to get ahead, spend your time learning the essence of the business that you are in not in
 learning how one of the 3000 programs that you have works.

Gord

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