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I've tried to stay out of this argument, but I can't .I was unemployed for nearly 2 years. There were NO AS400 jobs for the majority of that time.
There were a TON of MS .NET jobs. 2 things:1. I started my own business when I was unemployed (which further depleted my limited cash). I am building this business, so that I won't be at the mercy of an employer again.
2. I am learning .NET on my own (which is very slow and not very good for learning HOW it is used in business). This is so that when the AS400 market totally dies (with the machine, since IBM doesn't market it except through it's VARS), I'll have the ability to still work as a coder.
My situation is this:I DID find a permanent job a year and a half ago. It is in healthcare, and I am doing everything to please them so I won't get fired. I am making 10,000 less than I was when I was working last, and 15,000 less than what I made at the top of my career. (50,000 less than what I was making as a consultant, but now, the going rate for AS400 programmer is $25/hr instead of the $60/Hr I was charging IF you can find a consulting gig) The drop in rates for consulting is DIRECTLY related to overseas outsourcing. Also, the hypocrites will not let an AMERICAN consultant work remotely, but freely give that access to overseas programmers, but don't get me started on that.....
My business just moved into the black. In only 3 years. It is in no way able to replace my income from my job, but in another 3 to 5 years? That's my goal.
.NET is slow going, mainly because of my lack of time to devote to it. Once I am able to learn it, I can add .NET programming to my company's services. Also, I can create a program to sell, or a web portal, etc.
So, what made me respond? I wouldn't call myself lazy. There were NO opportunities for AS400 programmers. I have read the writing on the wall, and am moving on to other technologies, and positioning myself to be independant someday.
At 11:50 AM 1/28/2007, you wrote:
*** Please pay close attention when replying to a message on this list! *** If you want the reply to go to the list, use REPLY-TO-ALL *** Recruiters may advertise only permanent employment positions in this list. > Sorry, but I find that to be the biggest bunch of bull I've heard in a > long time. > > The lack of adequate employment is more based on the employees > unwillingness to learn new things than the fact that jobs have been First, I do not think that laziness from applicants and the absence of opportunities are the same thing, are they? So - I agree with you- we have opportunities that Ken was not aware of! I think Ken was speaking of volume/numbers and systemic declining prosperity for folks in the industry he is in. Is my read on this correct? Now, about the laziness: Simply - your correct - everyone has seen this. As a nation we are bloody spoiled rotten. The wake-up call is upon us. But is poor preperation the REASON for off-shoring - out-sourcing? -- This is the Midrange Jobs: Postings & Discussion (MIDRANGE-JOBS) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-JOBS@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-jobs or email: MIDRANGE-JOBS-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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