Re: The globalization of COMMON, or is this the right direction?

[Kenneth H Werner <KHWerner@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I must first say there is a world economy. Then I let my emotions talk.

There are many ways non citizens avoid paying taxes. I have even see ads 
in a hospital newspaper where a temporary agency (slave owner) 
advertises so boldly as to in print their offer to pay foreign nurses 
mostly outside the US thus saving them from having to render to the IRS 
or having Social Security taxes deducted.  Each April 15, remember be it 
an L or H1 visa, many foreign workers are partly or totally paid outside 
the US or in some other way are not tax payers. Knowing that even I can 
figure out why foreign workers work cheaper. Illegals are working as 
knowledge workers; as shown below it is not just visa holders.

I can go on employment web sites and find listings that more sound like 
they are offering for sale fake documents more than promoting available work

To be fair what sound like I am calling Mexicans below are not all 
Mexicans. For example, Cubans fly to Mexico City, make it up to Laredo, 
once on US soil walk up to an ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) 
agent and proudly tell the agent they are Cuban. The US deal with Cuba 
is that Cubans go back if they are caught wet (on water) and are a US 
citizen is caught on American dry land.  They have just won the 
Mega-Million Lottery when they tell the ICE agent they are Cuban.

If 100 running illegals cross as a group at Laredo or San Diego or El 
Paso, there is no way to control the group. They win the lottery of 
making it as an illegal. It is not necessary to be an H or L visa holder 
to enter the US for work and fake documentation is openly sold.

These are things I understand. No fence will be built on the boarder 
unless Mexico gives their approval of the fence. The odds of Mexico 
giving permission is equal to the odds of you paying your dad back the 
money you borrowed from him when you were in college. Almost always a 
foreign worker has job protection over a citizen, If I have 100 workers 
with 40 of them being non-citizens and I need to reduce my work force by 
50, I can only keep 10 citizens since I am not permitted to lay off the 
non-citizens. States are required to allow illegals to attend their 
state colleges at in-state rates. Up to July 1 of this year illegals are 
guaranteed Medicaid and I don't expect enforcement against illegals to 
work starting in July.  Maybe I need to read up on "labor pain", but I 
have never figured out why so many Mexican women come to the US for an 
afternoon of shopping and unexpectedly labor pain start reaching the 
point where they have to be hospitalized for a childbirth. The child is 
a US citizen enjoying all the benefits of being an American since it was 
born in the US. If they want to file for citizenship they have to pay a 
big fine so large it will encourage others to file for a visa rather 
come illegally -- that massive fine is $2,000 -- and they have to pay  
their income tax for 3 of 5 years -- since I am not too smart I have 
been paying the IRS 5 out of 5 years and I will get with the program of 
skipping 2 years every 5 years. If an illegal does file their 1040, they 
likely will be paid Earned Income rather than having to pay. There is a 
financial benefit for them to file their 1040. Illegals will receive 
Social Security credits for the years they worked as an illegal using 
illegal documentation. There are 12 million illegals working today and 
with this amnesty we are offering there will be 120,000 million in 15 
years in line for cheap college tuition, Social Security, Earned Income 
and all of the other benefits.


Steve Landess wrote:
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> I have not been to a COMMON conference in quite a while, but I had heard that the next conference is being held in Miami. As I was looking at COMMON's web site yesterday, I happened to click on the link that shows the candidates in the next board of directors election ( http://www.common.org/about/candidates.html ). 
>
> As I read the candidate's statements, I noticed that one candidate (Rajan Narayanan) is a senior VP for a company named Mindtree that promotes the outsourcing of work to India ( http://www.common.org/about/rajan.html ). 
> That, of course, immediately pushed one of my hot buttons. This candidate apparently earns his salary by taking jobs from North Americans and giving them to workers in India. If this is not the case, I would surely like to see his employee list!
>
> In fact, a quick visit to his employer's web page to view current job openings ( 
> http://www.mindtree.com/crs/opngs.php ) confirmed what I already suspected - that 
> Mindtree probably does NOT hire technical people in the United States!  Of 73 positions 
> being advertised, only ONE is in the USA - and it is for a "Manager of Business 
> Development" in Schaumburg, Illinois.
>
> It's no secret to anyone who subscribes to midrange-L or midrange-jobs how I feel about outsourcing American jobs overseas. Does anyone see anything wrong with the message that COMMON seems to be sending with this nomination? 
>
> COMMON purports to be an education provider, and it has programs designed to work with schools to bring young programmers into the midrange community. It even has a group calling itself the YIPS (Young iSeries Professionals). Ostensibly, this education is intended to benefit the iSeries community in North America. The last time I checked, COMMON was still based in Chicago, Illinois, and not in Bangalore, India. 
>
> I have heard that not many people vote for the board candidates because only those with individual memberships and the member representatives for a company are entitled to vote. It is my understanding that with people moving around in the industry and within their companies, COMMON has had trouble figuring out exactly who the member reps actually are. 
>
> If I am allowed a little conjecture here, a candidate with a large IT labor force could actually "buy" a seat on COMMON's board by telling his employees to purchase individual memberships and that the company would provide reimbursement. Also, the prospect that COMMON's membership list could then be available to an outsourcing firm really bothers me. 
>
> I am planning to buy a membership so that I can stand up for what I believe. If you also see a problem with COMMON's direction, I urge you to join COMMON and vote too. 
>
> By the way...I'm sure that Rajan appreciates IBM for their ongoing investment 
> in India.  See 
> http://news.com.com/IBM+to+pour+6+billion+into+India/2100-1014_3-6080346.html?tag=st.ref.goo
>   or http://tinyurl.com/eengr
>
> On that note, I'm wondering why IBM doens't just pull up and move their 
> headquarters to India!  They could get rid of hundreds (or thousands) of 
> overpaid executives in Armonk and Rochester and replace them with far cheaper 
> workers in Bangalore...
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Steve Landess
> Austin, Texas
> (512) 423-0935
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