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Leif, >The confusion was all mine. The toto website was funny though. Actually, Toto makes some very good toilets. They are particularly nice for guest bathrooms near other social areas. They are very quiet. Even the seats never slam down; they have a soft close which dampens the rate of descent. They also have a very large trap and we've never have problems even in the 1.6gal flush design as required by code where I live. I had never heard of them until a couple of years ago, but I'm surprised at the number of people who have said: "You have a Toto? I'm impressed." (No I'm not making this up!) Doug
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