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We have the same issue at a location where there is only 1
programmer/gatekeeper, and it's 'manageble' thru 'downstream controls' and
mitigating factors:

1. No below senior-level programmer has direct access to payroll, AP, or
GL data for update.
2. Inventory reports are emailed weekly to senior management, any sizeable
inventory irregularities would be reflected on those reports.
3. Invoice to pack slip match is performed daily by the Accounting Dept.
Any irregularities would be reflected in their daily edits.
4. AR lock-box receipts are checked daily (by Accounting Dept) to verify
that bank transactions match AR postings. Bank balances are reviewed and
reconciled by general accountant monthly.
5. The Accounting Dept. does a monthly audit to verify that all shipments
have been invoiced.
6. Checks can only be generated through MAPICS using password protected
accounts (Payroll and AP).
7. Payroll can only be posted to XXX Bank by a password controlled account
used by Senior Payroll Administrator.
8. Payroll and AP checks can only be processed through XXX Bank by a
password controlled account used by Accounting Manager.
9. Both AP & Payroll checks are controlled through the Positive Pay method
by which dollar amounts and check numbers are authenticated.
10. Payroll and AP perform reconciliation every month.

And since Dale brought it up...it would also be nice to find a help desk
tool that is rich in features and doesn't soak you on annual maintenance.


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To: "'MAPICS ERP System Discussion'" <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Gindlesperger, Dale" <DGindle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent by: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 07/24/2008 12:29PM
Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Change Management

I should mention that when we were a publicly traded company, we also
had a help desk product, and all project requests went thru the help
desk, and there was a cross reference to all of the changed programs.
The help desk ticket# was in all programs modified for it, and the
programs were listed in the resolution portion of the help ticket. That
was our documentation.

And it made MUCH more sense than multiple IDs for the same people,
depending if they were running a production job vs. doing programming.

That was deemed satisfactory.

Dale "Cork" Gindlesperger
Link Computer Corporation

-----Original Message-----
From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Burns, Bryan
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:01 PM
To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Change Management

Greg,
I like your solution, I like it a lot! Thanks. And thanks also to
Dale, Nick, Phil, Dave and Greg! Very good input.

Bryan Burns
iSeries Specialist
ECHO, Incorporated
Lake Zurich, Illinois

-----Original Message-----
From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Wenzloff
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:19 AM
To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Change Management

Bryan,

We designated 11 MAPICS files as being financially significant for SOX.

Then we journalled those files.
We run a nightly program to read the journal and list whenever anyone
with *allobj authority touches one of them.
If they are touched then justification is required.
The controller signs this daily report.

SOX auditors are OK with this arrangement.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Burns, Bryan [mailto:Bryan_Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:03 AM
To: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [MAPICS-L] Change Management

We'll be undergoing an internal controls IT audit later this year and
like a lot of small shops, our MIS staff has *ALLOBJ special authority
in their user profiles. In addition, all our AMFLIBx files have
authority for *PUBLIC as *CHANGE. Because our users don't have a
command line and we control ODBC updates through an exit point package,
*PUBLIC having *CHANGE to files isn't an issue. But the MIS staff
having *ALLOBJ to production files and being able to DFU any one of them
is an issue.

I believe there're at least 3 ways we can approach this:

1. Implement object level authority. (This is something management
really doesn't want to consider).
2. Run a nightly program to GRTOBJAUT of *EXCLUDE for every object
in our production libraries for every MIS user profile. In addition,
remove *ALLOBJ special authority from the MIS user profiles.
3. Implement a third party package like Authority Broker from the
PowerTech Group.

Have any of you had a similar security set-up as we have and had to
comply with Sarbanes-Oxley regulations or something similar? If so, I'd
like your input on the three approaches above or any other approach you
might recommend.

Thanks in advance,

Bryan Burns
iSeries Specialist
ECHO, Incorporated
Lake Zurich, Illinois

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