RE: Discussion on Applying PTFs -- MAPICS-L

Library list changes in MAPICS still need dedicated mode, well at least
in R5 anyway.

It's really not that difficult to create a copy of your production
environment for testing purposes.

-Jimmy

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Eric:

Yes you can do that.  Have AMAPTFx higher in the library list than 
AMALIBx.  Where it gets tricky is when MAPICS changes a file that goes 
with the PTF/PCM.  If you want to back out the PTF/PCM, you will need to

get the file back to the correct level as well.  Doing that in a 
production environment, well.... May the Force be with you..... 

The Shipping WorkBench is a perfect example of a PCM that once loaded 
MAPICS said you could not go back.  That is because they changed some 
files when that PCM loaded.  In theroy you could go back by doing a 
restore of the libraries, but if loaded into a production environment
that 
is not an option.

Is MAPICS calling them PTF's or still PCM's?


Steve Jones



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Can't you put the objects in a AMAPTFx library and only have that
library 
in
the test environment?

Eric

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> I agree. You can't share your production library to test PTFs anymore.

> Since MAPICS is now allowing for file, screen, report changes at the 
> PTF level instead of the release level, they had to modify the PTF 
> process to handle installing those objects.
>
> So.. You should now have the following environments:
>
> Production (Obviously)
> Test (Using production programs - This is to test scenarios only) PTF 
> Test (A complete environment with AMALIB and AMXLIB) Can also be used 
> to test a PCM upgrade as well.
>
> Well, DASD is getting cheaper.. :-)
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sansi, Jim
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:12 PM
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>
> Apply a MAPICS PTF (even temporarily) to production environment? I 
> don't know aboot that. That's why I have a copy of the production 
> environment for testing PTFs and the like, if it works then I schedule

> to bring it over into the live environment.
>
> -Jimmy
>
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>
> Applying fixes I thought was easy and clean. After down loading, apply

> to a testPTF library and test the fix. Apply permanently later.  If 
> the fix blew up, remove it from the testptf library. This could be 
> done anytime and a dedicated system was not required.
>
> I quess this has all changed.
>
> Now we have to apply to the testptf library but immediately apply 
> permanently or errors could occur.
>
> Everything happens under the covers now. and of course you need a 
> dedicated system to apply permanently.
>
> We no longer have the capability to test a fix before permanently 
> applying.
>
> This stinks and someone will get burned, do we trust MAPICS 100%.
>
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