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    Hey Dale.....If i may take the liberty to clarify.... 

    

   using paperless one can set up BF locations unique and specific for a
   facility (assembly area).  Or back flush from a single Item 'def stk
   location'  tailoring option in PLMC.

   The issue we had at Fleet wood , was we needed to BF some of the parts
   from a specific facility location, but others from a central holding
   location that fed several line locations. This is not possible in PLMC
   with out a TW from the central to the specific BF location.  Would be nice
   to be able to code the item WH record to allow either type.   

   also: there is an upfront 'Pick complete' option to pick parts at start of
   an MO, but all parts will get displayed....for location selection,  would
   have to modify to pick only those so coded.... ( wrap code)

   hope this clarifies....

   regard

   Jeff Snyder, CPIM

   From: DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx
   Reply-To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
   To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
   Subject: RE: Controlled vs Uncontrolled Warehouse
   Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:44:29 -0400
   Chuck (and Dale),
   Dale (the other one - he whose name CAN be pronounced and spelled) pointed
   out what is perhaps the biggest weakness in I/M backflushing (at least, to
   me) - the dreaded ST01/WIP location being the only backflush location.  We
   have also utilized MDCC's backflush by operation, which auto-backflushes
   from a pre-defined location (the default stocking location), but that
   isn't
   always good either.  What about when you have multiple assembly lines with
   common parts?  (Which we do.)
   We are in the process of implementing a newly developed (internally)
   enhancement that will auto-charge at order release time from specially
   coded locations in the departments that are producing the parts.  We would
   actually prefer the parts to be charged up front for some items rather
   than
   backflushing at "RM" time.  I think that would be an interesting option
   for
   MAPICS to consider.  I know that you can use Uncontrolled Floor Stock to
   accomplish this, but we don't want to do that for a number of reason.
   Dale Gindlesperger
   IT Manager/Special Projects Leader
   Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc.
   258 Beacon Street
   Somerset, PA  15501
                          "Walker, Dale"
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   Chuck,
   Dale offers some good advice, however another factor to consider is how
   your material consumption process operates. Remember, if you have
   inventory in multiple stocking locations (concurrently) and you use
   controlled floor stock to backflush component consumption...which
   location do you want the inventory to be relieved from? Mapics only
   gives you one choice.
   This may or may not be a concern in your case but it bit me here. I have
   a modification/enhancement in place that provides us the flexibility to
   have inventory in multiple locations and to conditionally backflush from
   different locations. Contact me offline if you want to discuss this
   further.
   Good luck.
   Dale Walker
   Gross-Given Mfg / Automatic Products Intnl.
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx
   [mailto:DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx]
   Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 4:09 PM
   To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
   Subject: Re: Controlled vs Uncontrolled Warehouse
   Chuck,
   One thing you will find is that (if you are keying transaction) there is
   more keying on every transaction.  You also will end up doing "TW"
   (inter/intra-warehouse transfers) between locations.  That's about the
   only
   downside.
   On the plus side, better inventory controls (you know WHERE the parts
   actually are), you can store and track them accurately in multiple
   locations, you can MUCH better define your warehouse and factory floor
   stocking.
   There's a lot more, but too much for this forum.  If you want more
   detail
   than you can handle on this topic, contact Jeff Snyder directly.  He's a
   expert in this area.  You can reach him at jeffreygsnyder@xxxxxxxxxxxx
   Warning!  Be prepared for a VERY lengthy response.  :)
   That's said in humor, but it's also very true.  He can definitely give
   you
   a good rundown on advantages and disadvantages.
   We use both types of warehouses here, and take advantage of the pluses
   of
   each where they actually will benefit us.  I determine which to use
   based
   on what moves through the warehouse, how I have (or want) to track it
   (for
   accounting and control purposes), volume of transactions, and value of
   transactions and inventory.  Also the number of items, difficulty of
   monitoring and keeping accurate counts, and so on.  There's a lot of
   factors that I use.
   Dale Gindlesperger
   IT Manager/Special Projects Leader
   Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc.
   258 Beacon Street
   Somerset, PA  15501
                          Chuck Kearney
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   Currently a "Uncontrolled" warehouse, see some reasons to become a
   "Controlled" warehouse.
   The most obvious being the ability to stock the same part in more than
   one
   location.
   What are other advantages and disadvantages of "Controlled vs
   Uncontrolled"?
   What issues might there be if I were to convert from Uncontrolled to
   Controlled?
   Best Regards,
   Chuck Kearney
   Materials Manager
   Hydro Systems Company
   Phone (513) 842-2511
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