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Bud,

That's a complicated one.  In my case, we do regular upgrades to my
hardware, and I was continually paying major cash for licensing upgrades on
all my upgrades.  I was on tier-based pricing.

In my case, I saved a bunch over several upgrades by converting to
user-based from tier-based.  However, interestingly enough, my last upgrade
was from a 9406-720 to a 9406-270, which was 4 times more powerful, but
oddly enough dropped me from a P20 to a P10.  No price savings on that one
for me for MAPICS, but I did save on my  IBM licensing.

I would think you would save a chunk on licensing with your proposed move
at this time, but you may end up paying more than you would save in the
future.  You have to look long term on this one.

ILF is "Initial License Fee" and you don't have to worry about that if you
already own the applications.  It's for when you initally purchase a new
app.

And it doesn't surprise me that you are getting a "fuzzy answer" - your
affiliate won't make any money lowering your annuals fees.  In my
particular case, my sales rep worked hard with me to save me money on deals
in MAPICS.  He figured good will would pay off in the future, and it did
(for a while), but that affiliate doesn't exist anymore.  I never got
information on ALFs from MAPICS, always from my affiliate.

Hope this helps!

Dale Gindlesperger
IT Manager/Special Projects Leader
Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc.
258 Beacon Street
Somerset, PA  15501




                                                                                
                                                              
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I have a client in a P20 processor group that is currently paying user
based
ALF (50 users).    We were wondering if the ALF could be lowered by going
tier-based with a P10 machine.    Does anyone have information on the
formula that is used to calculate the ALF?   Also, what is ILF?    I'm
posting this here because the affiliate is being very vague when responding
to our inquiry and MAPICS has not responded at all.    This leads me to
believe it may be a good way to go.    The applications we are using are
CAS, AR, COM, IM, PDM, PUR, KBC and Browser at Release 6.
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