Thanks, Dale... (BTW, nice article in the e-server magazine...)

Well, if the part comes back from the customer, we do create a new MO, then
manually modify the MO to delete unnecessary steps (like making the part in
the first place!) and add any additional steps - usually inspection and
quality tests - not in the original routing. We usually do this as a
"sample" MO, which coincidentally are labeled as "MS" orders here. In the
"bad" old days, our engineers would actually create a new item, i.e. if the
original casting was "Z123456", they would create an item "Z123456Rework",
then create a rework routing. Problem was when another casting came back
from the customer for different rework reasons/needs... So we finally
convinced them to use the same item number and modify the MO routing and BOM
after it was issued, before work began.

Not eligant, but we do have history for what was done to the parts on
individual basis.

Tom and Dale - hope this helps...

Joan McCready, IS Manager      phone:  636-479-4499
MetalTek International         fax:  636-479-3399
The Carondelet Division        www.metaltekint.com
8600 Commercial Blvd
Pevely, MO  63070                      


-----Original Message-----
From: DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com [mailto:DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:34 PM
To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
Subject: RE: Reporting Rework


Tom, 

Rework on closed orders is why we set up separate MS orders for rework. We 
put the original order# in the reference number of the IU transaction to 
allow a cross reference.  But I'll bet Joan has a better solution!  I get 
lots of great ideas off her!  (I should buy her a beer at this year's 
conference - I'm definitely attending her session!)

Dale @ Fleetwood





"Tom Wood" <TomW@fortrecoveryindustries.com>
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Thanks Joan,

How do you handle rework for parts AFTER the originating MO is closed? For
example if parts come back from a customer (ouch!)needing some rework done.

Thanks,

Tom

-----Original Message-----
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Mike Bennett - Information Services Manager
Kimray Inc. 
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405-525-6601 - 405-525-6165 fax
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Tom,

That could work, but you lose visibility as to WHY the parts are being
reworked. If 75% of your rework is in 15% of your product, then there is

an
opportunity (a la Six Sigma).

That's why we want to capture rework as part of the WIP MO... We want to
know why things went wrong and rework was required.

We are using PaperLess, but this would also work with PCC - our inspectors
(and ONLY our inspectors) add the rework operation to the open MO when it 
is
decided that rework is needed. They can add notes when they create the
operation. The added operation(s) then appear as a labor variance against
the MO, etc., etc., etc. (I think - I'm not the cost acct - that the 
rework
"facility" information directs the rework labor to the rework accounts and
not the "standard" labor accounts...) Material is rarely issued at a 
rework
operation, but that is an on-going issue since we back-flush standard
materials instead of having the workers record inventory transactions as
they report pieces completed at operations.

My 2 cents worth...  -- Joan

Joan McCready, IS Manager      phone:  636-479-4499
MetalTek International         fax:  636-479-3399
The Carondelet Division        www.metaltekint.com
8600 Commercial Blvd
Pevely, MO  63070 


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Wood [mailto:TomW@fortrecoveryindustries.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:30 AM
To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
Subject: RE: Reporting Rework


Thanks guys.

Any thoughts on using a generic MO for rework on all items? Maybe close it
out every month or so. Would be nice to have an mo that can be charged
(primarily to capture labor) and maybe reference the item number when
jobbing on/off?

Thanks,

Tom



-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Tenney [mailto:bobtenney@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:46 AM
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Subject: Re: Reporting Rework

Tom,  If you use a separate MO for rework, you can use the Mfg Order
Accounting Class to flag the MO as rework. If the rework operations are
within an MO then you can assign the rework operations to a separate
production facility and use the Prod. Fac. Accounting Class to flag them

as
rework. In either case, you can isolate and report these costs in your
general ledger through the PCC/GL interface.

Bob Tenney
Bob Tenney Solutions, LLC
MAPICS - FRx - Crystal Reports
828-526-8976
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Wood" <TomW@fortrecoveryindustries.com>
To: <mapics-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:24 AM
Subject: Reporting Rework


I apologize if this is a frequent question.



Any suggestions for easily and effectively reporting rework operations 
using
an MO?  (Release 6 - PR/PMC/PCC/IM) no GUI, no Paperless.



Thanks.



Tom Wood

IS Manager

Fort Recovery Industries Inc.




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