RE: Data Collection and Time & Attendance / HR

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Greg, you may be being too kind when comparing OE&I to COM!  But that's
water under the bridge.

We also looked VERY hard at in-house programming to replace our data
collection.  In fact, we actually did some of our own where we absolutely
HAD to enforce business rules.  But overall, I still prefer to buy
packaged solutions.  They go in faster, and generally have more features
than in-house developed packages.  It's generally easier to upgrade
versions, also.  But it does cost more up front, and you do have to
balance ALFs versus usage.

Incidentally, we bit the bullet a while back and jumped from "processor
based" fees to "user based" fees.  The one time cost was pretty steep, but
we figure we'll more than make it up on savings on upgrades, which we do
about every other year.  That's an option worth considering.

Dale @ Fleetwood






Greg Wenzloff <GWenzloff@beckmfg.com>
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01/30/02 08:18 AM
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If you are using an old AS/400 be prepared for a real shock when you
switch
from OEI to COM.   COM performs at about half the pace of OEI.   If you
buy
a faster computer, MAPICS will want a bundle of money in license fees.

But to answer your question about data collection and T/A.    About 7
years
ago we wrote our own data collection and T/A programs.   Since then we
have
saved probably hundreds of thousands of dollars in licensing fees and we
have a system that is completely tailored to are needs.

We had PERMS for a while and let the license expire.

So I am suggesting that along with the purchased programs you should
consider in house programming too.

Greg Wenzloff
Beck Manufacturing




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From: Roy Thorn [mailto:roy.thorn@ablemfg.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 1:17 PM
To: 'mapics-l@midrange.com'
Subject: Data Collection and Time & Attendance / HR - PERMS


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To Whom It May Concern:

We are in the process of reviewing different packages for Data Collection
and Time & Attendance - DCSI / HIGHJUMP and HR - PERMS.  Our company is
currently running Mapics/DB, with the old DCSI and PERMS packages and we
are
planning to implement Mapics/XA in the next year or so.  In preparation
for
that we are looking at what packages are available and the consensus of
users and their thoughts who have implemented or used the newer DCSI /
HIGHJUMP and PERMS packages or other packages, and why they choose them
over
HIGHJUMP and PERMS.  The current versions of these packages are ridiculous
and riddled with problems.  So we are looking for as many opinions on the
Data Collection, Time & Attendance and HR systems - as possible.


Roy W. Thorn III
Director of Information Technology
Contact me at roy.thorn@ablemfg.com <mailto:roy.thorn@ablebodycorp.com>
Check us out on the Web at www.ablemfg.com <http://www.ablebodycorp.com>
417 623-3060  Ext.-216
417 850-1694  Cell

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