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  3. August 2001

Re: re[2]: MAPICS and COMMON


What I proposed to the CBOD back in Baltimore was that they give serious
consideration to allowing joint conferences to run concurrently.  I'm not
sure how long the mapics conference runs so this is a TOTAL HYPOTHETICAL:

Presuming that the Mapics conf was 1.5days core conference...more could
just be trickeled in.....

Sunday-thurs you have access to the full common conference:  expo, tech
sessions, soundoff, cuds, etc.

Thurs-Friday:  SUG specific sessions.

This would allow for cheaper costs to all involved and a much more rounded
education/learning/exposure experience....

that was a year ago...needless to say, it's not happened.  IT was all
part of the LUG(local user group) planning mosaic I presented to teh CMC
and the LUG luncheon...  Got a copy here somewhere if ya wanna read it...

This was proposed not just for mapics, but for ALL SUGs...but...alas...


Don

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On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 gcrane@johansonmfg.com wrote:

>
>
> WOW....what an idea....sounds like 1980 all over again.  It may save users
> money....then would the bosses be happy.
>
>
>
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> Don <dr2@cssas400.com> on 08/28/2001 09:07:31 PM
>
> Please respond to mapics-l@midrange.com
>
> To:   mapics-l@midrange.com
> cc:    (bcc: Gail L Crane/Johanson/JMC)
>
> Subject:  Re: re[2]: MAPICS and COMMON
>
>
>
>
>
> what if the 2 conferences were to merge?
>
> Think of the synergy.....:)
>
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com wrote:
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> >
> > I'm in the same boat as you - I can only attend one or the other.  I choose
> > the MAPICS conference, as I get sufficient (for me) information on the
> > AS/400 (sorry, I-Series) and other IBM information from my affiliate and
> > trade periodicals, but only the MAPICS conference gives me all the scoop on
> > what's new with MAPICS, what direction they are going in (such as Power
> > Architecture), easy access to add-on vendors, and good tips from other
> > customers and consultants.
> >
> > We run our business with MAPICS, and I do more MAPICS upgrades than I do
> > AS/400 (I-Series) upgrades.  With that in mind, the MAPICS User Conference
> > is a better value to the company than COMMON.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                     gcrane@johansonmf
> >                     g.com                    To:     mapics-l@midrange.com
> >                     Sent by:                 cc:
> >                     mapics-l-admin@mi        Subject:     Re: re[2]: MAPICS
> and COMMON
> >                     drange.com
> >
> >
> >                     08/28/01 05:29 PM
> >                     Please respond to
> >                     mapics-l
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I sure as heck did not want to start a war on MAPICS User Conference vs
> > COMMON....my original question was whether or not the people on this list
> > want
> > MAPICS Sessions to be given at COMMON.  Of course, COMMON can never replace
> > the
> > MAPICS User Conference nor does it intend to.  The question at large is to
> > try
> > to find out if the Users of MAPICS software are limited by their companies
> > to
> > only be allowed to attend one conference per year (such as me).  If they
> > are
> > limited to one conference per year, then a choice is necessary to be made -
> > which one to attend?.  Now if COMMON has some sessions of MAPICS, then it
> > may be
> > the selection of choice.   Or the other possible choice is to alternate 1
> > year
> > MAPICS, 1 year COMMON....but with the speed of the changing business
> > environment
> > that seems not a great choice.    So, IMHO, MAPICS sessions at COMMON is
> > great!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lisa Weaver <lweaver@guidetechnologies.com> on 08/28/2001 09:37:54 AM
> >
> > Please respond to mapics-l@midrange.com
> >
> > To:   mapics discussion board <MAPICS-L@midrange.com>
> > cc:    (bcc: Gail L Crane/Johanson/JMC)
> >
> > Subject:  re[2]: MAPICS and COMMON
> >
> >
> >
> > I am a consultant with Guide, a Mapics affiliate. I am trying to sell
> > nothing.
> > I've been following the discussions about User Conference vs COMMON.  I
> > must
> > disagree with some of the statements about the Mapics User Conference being
> > designed soley as a "Sales" conference.  There are 3 full days of break-out
> > sessions available to attendees.  Never, as a user or as a consultant, have
> > I
> > been disappointed that I didn't learn something.  In fact, the information
> > I've
> > obtained there over the years has more than paid for the cost of the
> > conferences
> > and all my expenses.  This past year, I happened to be a presenter for one
> > of
> > those sessions...I didn't even talk about MAPICS.  There are usually
> > between
> > 1500 and 2000 attendees...most users.  It is a huge opportunity to network
> > with
> > other users.  I'm sure that COMMON is very good.  I'm also POSITIVE that
> > there
> > are people at COMMON trying to sell you something.
> >
> > Lisa Cohen Weaver
> > Consultant Manager
> > Guide Technologies, L.L.C.
> > 6502 Constitution Drive
> > Fort Wayne, IN  46804
> > 219-459-7641
> > Fax 219-459-2127
> > lweaver@guidetechnologies.com
> >
> > > I agree with Eric.    MAPICS conference is a Sales conference designed to
> > get you to buy more Apps.   Save your money and attend COMMON.
> >
> > Greg Wenzloff
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com
> > [mailto:DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1:58 PM
> > To: mapics-l@midrange.com
> > Subject: Re: MAPICS and COMMON
> >
> >
> >
> > Eric,
> >
> > I have to disagree a little regarding MAPICS being just a sales show - I
> > attend several "customer solutions" sessions each year, and have given a
> > couple.  I agree, the customer solutions are usually excellent - it is
> > always good to see how people use the software to solve problems and how
> > they may have implemented the apps in a (perhaps) unusual or different way.
> > Yes, there are "sales sessions" to show the new stuff (which there has been
> > a whole lot of lately!), but I find them necessary to see what all we can
> > do with the new stuff - especially the new "Power Architecture" stuff.
> > Without the sales sessions at the conference, I don't know how I'd get
> > enough good information on the new apps and features.
> >
> > I personally find the tech expo at the conferences to be VERY valuable.
> > Last year's was the best yet - I liked that they expanded the hours from
> > prior years.  However, I'd like to have it open even more, especially the
> > area where you can talk to the MAPICS developers/support people and try out
> > the new apps at the kiosks.  Is that what you mean by needing more "hands
> > on?"
> >
> > I'd like them to have some roundtables with users also - for things like
> > their e-business strategies, effectively implementing some of the Browser
> > apps, Supply Chain Management, etc.  Then we could get multiple company's
> > solutions in one session.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                     "Eric Wolf"
> >                     <eric_a_wolf@hotm        To:     mapics-l@midrange.com
> >                     ail.com>                 cc:
> >                     Sent by:                 Subject:     MAPICS and COMMON
> >                     mapics-l-admin@mi
> >                     drange.com
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> >
> >                     08/18/01 01:25 PM
> >                     Please respond to
> >                     mapics-l
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gail,
> >
> > I think that COMMON and the MAPICS conferences serve different purposes.
> > COMMON gives IT departments the opportunity to keep up-to-date with the IBM
> > technologies, as well as, other technologies.
> >
> > The MAPICS Conference, on the other hand,introduces users to new
> > applications, how other users are using MAPICS and 3rd party enhancements
> > that they may not be aware of. What the MAPICS conference does not offer is
> > "hands-on" sessions like they did in the past. It has become more of a
> > "sales" conference instead of the User Conference.  They also need more
> > users to speak on how they solved their problems using MAPICS.
> >
> > Eric A. Wolf
> > Midrange Implementation Specialists
> > eric_a_wolf@hotmail.com  -or- ericw@midrangespecialists.com
> >
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