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I'm in the same boat as you - I can only attend one or the other. I choose the MAPICS conference, as I get sufficient (for me) information on the AS/400 (sorry, I-Series) and other IBM information from my affiliate and trade periodicals, but only the MAPICS conference gives me all the scoop on what's new with MAPICS, what direction they are going in (such as Power Architecture), easy access to add-on vendors, and good tips from other customers and consultants. We run our business with MAPICS, and I do more MAPICS upgrades than I do AS/400 (I-Series) upgrades. With that in mind, the MAPICS User Conference is a better value to the company than COMMON. gcrane@johansonmf g.com To: mapics-l@midrange.com Sent by: cc: mapics-l-admin@mi Subject: Re: re[2]: MAPICS and COMMON drange.com 08/28/01 05:29 PM Please respond to mapics-l I sure as heck did not want to start a war on MAPICS User Conference vs COMMON....my original question was whether or not the people on this list want MAPICS Sessions to be given at COMMON. Of course, COMMON can never replace the MAPICS User Conference nor does it intend to. The question at large is to try to find out if the Users of MAPICS software are limited by their companies to only be allowed to attend one conference per year (such as me). If they are limited to one conference per year, then a choice is necessary to be made - which one to attend?. Now if COMMON has some sessions of MAPICS, then it may be the selection of choice. Or the other possible choice is to alternate 1 year MAPICS, 1 year COMMON....but with the speed of the changing business environment that seems not a great choice. So, IMHO, MAPICS sessions at COMMON is great! Lisa Weaver <lweaver@guidetechnologies.com> on 08/28/2001 09:37:54 AM Please respond to mapics-l@midrange.com To: mapics discussion board <MAPICS-L@midrange.com> cc: (bcc: Gail L Crane/Johanson/JMC) Subject: re[2]: MAPICS and COMMON I am a consultant with Guide, a Mapics affiliate. I am trying to sell nothing. I've been following the discussions about User Conference vs COMMON. I must disagree with some of the statements about the Mapics User Conference being designed soley as a "Sales" conference. There are 3 full days of break-out sessions available to attendees. Never, as a user or as a consultant, have I been disappointed that I didn't learn something. In fact, the information I've obtained there over the years has more than paid for the cost of the conferences and all my expenses. This past year, I happened to be a presenter for one of those sessions...I didn't even talk about MAPICS. There are usually between 1500 and 2000 attendees...most users. It is a huge opportunity to network with other users. I'm sure that COMMON is very good. I'm also POSITIVE that there are people at COMMON trying to sell you something. Lisa Cohen Weaver Consultant Manager Guide Technologies, L.L.C. 6502 Constitution Drive Fort Wayne, IN 46804 219-459-7641 Fax 219-459-2127 lweaver@guidetechnologies.com > I agree with Eric. MAPICS conference is a Sales conference designed to get you to buy more Apps. Save your money and attend COMMON. Greg Wenzloff -----Original Message----- From: DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com [mailto:DaleGindlesperger@fft-inc.com] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 1:58 PM To: mapics-l@midrange.com Subject: Re: MAPICS and COMMON Eric, I have to disagree a little regarding MAPICS being just a sales show - I attend several "customer solutions" sessions each year, and have given a couple. I agree, the customer solutions are usually excellent - it is always good to see how people use the software to solve problems and how they may have implemented the apps in a (perhaps) unusual or different way. Yes, there are "sales sessions" to show the new stuff (which there has been a whole lot of lately!), but I find them necessary to see what all we can do with the new stuff - especially the new "Power Architecture" stuff. Without the sales sessions at the conference, I don't know how I'd get enough good information on the new apps and features. I personally find the tech expo at the conferences to be VERY valuable. Last year's was the best yet - I liked that they expanded the hours from prior years. However, I'd like to have it open even more, especially the area where you can talk to the MAPICS developers/support people and try out the new apps at the kiosks. Is that what you mean by needing more "hands on?" I'd like them to have some roundtables with users also - for things like their e-business strategies, effectively implementing some of the Browser apps, Supply Chain Management, etc. Then we could get multiple company's solutions in one session. "Eric Wolf" <eric_a_wolf@hotm To: mapics-l@midrange.com ail.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: MAPICS and COMMON mapics-l-admin@mi drange.com 08/18/01 01:25 PM Please respond to mapics-l Gail, I think that COMMON and the MAPICS conferences serve different purposes. COMMON gives IT departments the opportunity to keep up-to-date with the IBM technologies, as well as, other technologies. The MAPICS Conference, on the other hand,introduces users to new applications, how other users are using MAPICS and 3rd party enhancements that they may not be aware of. What the MAPICS conference does not offer is "hands-on" sessions like they did in the past. It has become more of a "sales" conference instead of the User Conference. They also need more users to speak on how they solved their problems using MAPICS. Eric A. 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