I agree with Joel on this one. Now that I've begun developing in dot net,
the Microsoft VS Studio environment is excellent. Very easy to figure
out, much more friendly that wdsc, especially when it comes to drag and
drop design. Our RPG is gone now, no new development in RPG, and the
iSeries are being heaved out the door in favor of windows based servers.
Do I agree? No. Personally, I think the iSeries is the most stable
platform out there. Do I blame IBM? Yes. From my standpoint, IBM is
dragging it's feet in marketing, and nickel and diming the customers to
death. After so long in trying to get developers to move to WDSC, now
they are going to start charging for it? Basically, anyone who has fought
to have their green screen comrades use WDSC only to now have it taken
away because a lot of shops cannot afford to have a license for it (don't
need it cause we didn't have to pay for green screen development etc
etc...). Way to go IBM, loyalty bonus points... NOT.
Ron Power
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On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Mike wrote:
> I was just comparing price on VisualStudio 2008 Pro. You can pretty
much do
> everything with pro.
Well, everything but develop for non-Windows platforms <laughing>.
Joe
I'm sure he meant everything as in all the different types of
development: console, Windows Forms, ASP.NET Web Forms, ASP.NET MVC
(which is looking phenomenal), Web Services, WCF, WWF, WPF, WPF in
Browser, Silverlight, etc. etc. With Pro (and maybe standard) you can
do multiple languages like C#, VB, F#, and C++ (you can even do Java
via J#, although i don't know anyone who is serious about that.) And
of course you can install additional language support for Ruby,
Python, Cobol, etc. And if you really don't care about multiple
languages, there are a bunch of Free VS products under the Express
line that still support most of these features.
I think the point is that when it comes to Developer Environments,
Microsoft got it right. I'm now in my third iteration of Visual
Studio, and I get more impressed with every upgrade. It was, in fact,
the product that finally made me serious about learning to code for
Windows. I definitely appreciate your point about it only running on
Windows (if you exclude the Mono project for Linux .NET), but how many
of us really face a problem with client running on platforms other
than windows? I'm not saying it will never happen, but the vast
majority of our Client's PCs run Windows, and all but the most extreme
anti-MS people have at least some Windows servers on their networks.
Hope I don't sound like a Fanboy! :-D
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