Re: A Dialogue

Glenn Holmer skrev den 10-12-2007 15:26:

Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote:

I saw a demo at JAOO 2006 where the amount of work needed to add Ajax to a JSF-solution was a matter of adding tags to delimit the area updated by Ajax (so the whole page was not to be reloaded). The rest was unchanged. The learning curve is steep, but the view is good.

You're probably talking about Dynamic Faces [1]. My current feeling is
that JSF and Dynamic Faces are the future of web programming. We're
(still) exploring the NetBeans Visual Web Editor, which uses the
Woodstock JSF components by default [2]. As far as I can see, they use
this technique, and I have had test apps written that talk to an iSeries
(though not using Dynamic Faces).

[1]
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/edburns/archive/2006/08/introducing_pro.html

[2] https://woodstock.dev.java.net/index.html

Very likely, it was Ed Burns who introduced the technique, but I do not think it had been given that name yet.

From my experience with a completely handwritten JSF application, I do not see much benefit from doing the JSF visually _IFF_ the XML editor supports loading taglibs so you can get code completion on tag names and attributes.

I also have the same feeling as you. The abstraction level is high enough for this to be long lived - I have also read that facelets gives you JSF without JSP's (which end up being a pain).