RE: RE: What is Business Programming?

["Paul Holm" <pholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jeff,

1.  I?ve rutted around this OO ? RDBS mapping area for a good stint.  IMHO
There are some good APIs out there but I have found most OO ? RDBM mapping
APIs don?t meet my productivity and feature needs.  There are a lot of
reasons I say this I right now I?m too tired and behind to fully discuss
them.  In a nutshell, the problem I find with most mappers and current
approaches is that they generate JavaBeans in an intrusive manner.  These
beans have standard settings and getters.  An Employee has a SSN attribute
which is a String and so forth.  Given the patterns I?ve discussed and my
productivity requirements, I can?t live with that approach normally.  I need
intelligence in my fields not raw Strings and much more importantly I NEED
THE ABILITY TO ITERATE OVER MY FIELDS.  My business objects have collections
of intelligent fields.  This enables the framework to leverage the
intelligent Row subclasses and fields.  Adaptors and add-ons can easily be
written to extend functionality because they can iterate through ANY data
not a specific one.  Common fields such as Zip, SSN , Phone, take care of
them selves, fields know if they are required and can work with their sister
fields as needed.  Powerful inherited and default behavior can be gained.
Again with the standard OO models, I would be forced to comeup with some
introspection scheme to have similar capability which I have tried and I
fell short.

Joe,

In terms of the app, you can slice and dice business problems anyway you
want perhaps trying to get an advantage to your approach.  You have
challenged the group and asked about metrics.  I have responded with
concrete examples and results per your request.
I guess if you want to identify metrics in the categories, we can start with
93 minutes.  Your turn.  And then we can analyze different business problems
as was discussed and get some metrics and results on them.

I?m out of here to eat, paint the bedroom, and get the garbage out.

Have a good night everyone!

Thanks, Paul