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Agreed...  The ideas of OO can be a bit arcane... I think we both agree that 
once you understand the concepts of
inheritance, polymorphism, and encapsulation you should start coding...

I still laugh at some of my early attempts at OOP... heck, I laugh at stuff I 
did last week!!!!

dan


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Loen [mailto:lwloen@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 12:18 PM
To: Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400
Subject: RE: Learning java - any advice please?



Daniel Eyers wrote:

   Books are helpful but I found when I needed to do something, I went to
   the web looking for example code.  It's pretty much out there.  I find
   that mimicking examples helped me to understand the favor of the
   language and learn what's
   posssible.  If I came up against something I didn't understand, I'd hit
   the Javadoc or web resources.  Of course, this mail list is full of
   friendly people who want to help.

This is good advise for all but  the "learning object-orientation" part of
Java.  A few things really do need to be learned in some kind of formal
setting.  A good class or, failing that, a good book is mandetory for this
one.  It's not as hard as calculus, but it is nontrivial enough that you
really want to learn it from a good practitioner -- nothing will save you
more time and grief.

Getting started "procedurally" is OK because you really have no practical
choice.  But, make a commitment to learn object-orientation in some kind of
formal manner.  It's half the point of Java and it can really pay off big
to you and your business.

--

Larry Loen, Senior Programmer iSeries Java and Linux analysis



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