Re: SWT - The LATEST great thing...

["Glen Marchesani" <glenlist@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Jumping in a little late but this is a big can of worms.

The name eclipse and it's relation to sun is no accident.  IBM and Sun have
been trading barbs back and forth about this for a while.

I tend to take anything IBM says about forte with a grain of salt and the
same goes for Sun in relation to SWT and Eclipse.  SWT and Eclipse are NOT
part of the core java offerings which is what my understanding of what the
JCP is for.  Not for all the open source projects out there to all use the
same design process.  If you want to add to the design of SWT download the
code and make cool changes so the eclipse team will integrate them.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Jin" <brucej@MRC-PRODUCTIVITY.COM>
To: "Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400"
<java400-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: SWT - The LATEST great thing...


> I read this in a old article:
>
> Whether by accident or intent, IBM's involvement with Eclipse and SWT is
an
> assertion of Java leadership. Many welcome this but would prefer that IBM
> acknowledge the reality and submit SWT to the JCP (Java Community
Process).
> "If it's good for Java, let's get it out in the open," Sun's Engstrom
says.
>
> And other comments about AWT here:
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/02/06/14/020617pleclipse_1.html
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@PlutaBrothers.com>
> To: "Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400"
> <java400-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 5:44 AM
> Subject: RE: SWT - The LATEST great thing...
>
>
> > > From: Mihael Knezevic
> > >
> > > i know cause i use eclipse on my linux box and it's great.
> >
> > That's why I'm learning SWT - I want to work with Eclipse.
> >
> >
> > > but i think
> > > that with swt you have another dependency and another library you have
> > > to add to the class path and another file on the disk and one you have
> > > to additionaly distribute with your apps. and of course more classes
and
> > > methods you have to know about.
> >
> > True.  But in these days of large applications, one more file is hardly
an
> > issue.  I wish it weren't so, of course, but there really was no other
way
> > to do what they were trying to do.
> >
> >
> > > that is enough for me to say no. there is allready so much to learn
and
> > > to know about and swt is one thing i don't necessarily need. the
> > > standard works just fine for me. (just my 2 cents)
> > >
> > > but that has everyone to decide for himself.
> >
> > Yes indeed.  But if you plan on ever writing tools that work WITH
Eclipse,
> > you'll need to learn SWT.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
>
>
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