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Dieter, I struggled with WebSphere also, and came to the conclusion that Tomcat was a better fit for most of the projects I work on. With your experience, you probably have some insights that could help AS/400 Java developers. I want AS/400 Java programmers to be successful at deploying Java but statements like "don't use CRTJVAPGM on boxes > V4R5" and "don't use the native driver, its buggy" don't seem constructive. My contribution to the question "how to write java applications, well modularized, flexible against changing requirements, stable, failure tolerant and .... fast enough on as400." is to turn toward open source projects like Struts and Tomcat. These were not written by RPG programmers and work just fine on the AS/400 as well as other platforms. Most RPG programmers that I have help learn and use Struts have had little trouble understanding the Struts framework and recognize its value, just like they recognized the value of external display files. David Morris >>> Dieter.Bender@t-online.de 11/05/02 12:26PM >>> David, I'm reading this Mailing list for a long time and I see some java projects in the 400er area in germany and sometimes I've the idea that I'm looking at rpg programs written in java and the outer world of java is hidden to the 400er community and this is a negative fact for the as400. The main topic is: how to write java applications, well modularized, flexible against changing requirements, stable, failure tolerant and .... fast enough on as400. and so I'm throwing in my few cents (we have this in germany now too) to bring the as400 java community to the mainstream of application development. If CRTJVAPGM speeds up your application and you need it, use it. I've seen constellations, it didn't help anything and took 24 h. The as400 and it never crashs, I've seen boxes running WebsFear: WF took 95% of the CPU, just doing nothing, it was impossible to stop WF, the SBS could not be ended, even an ENDJOBABN didn't help, only PWRDWNSYS stopped this nonsense and luckily we did not run WF 3.5.1 or 3.5.2 (some of us know why). Dieter
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