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Fred --

I understand everything you said and it makes perfect sense.

However, it is disconcerting for a customer to have to put on the Java
Group PTF as part of the ship strategy just to get the javac compiler to
work.  While I recognize that the AS/400 (and iSeries) together with
OS/400 are much more sophisticated and complex machines than a Wintel
setup, it does seem to me that for the extra money the customer should
be doing less work, not more.

If IBM offered a JDK for Windows for download where the javac compiler
couldn't find the String class until fixes were applied, people would
rightly be up in arms.  We're not talking about some esoteric Java
feature here.  I don't think iSeries customers should be asked to accept
less.

Just my $0.02,
Gary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: java400-l-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:java400-l-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Fred Kulack
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:50 AM
> To: java400-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Upgrading V4R4 to JDK1.3
>
>
>
> FWIW, the OS/400 and JVM release schedules sort of line up
> just by luck. OS/400 release schedules are driven by IBM,
> while JVM release schedules are mandated by license agreement
> with Sun.
>
> This makes for some interesting relationships between code on
> what you view as a brand new OS/400 release, and what you get
> with the PTFs immediately available for that release. I.e.
> there's a bit of time in-house between the last build that
> builds OS/400, and the last PTF created before the product
> actually shipped). I was pretty sure that each OS/400 release
> is shipped with the CDs containing the current PTFs available
> at that time (for products ordered), but that's not really my
> area so I could be incredibly mistaken.
>
> That said, I've always viewed the Java Group PTF as equal
> parts of ship strategy and fix strategy. You should always be
> running the newest group PTF, regardless of what else is going on.
>
>
> In every single ethnic, religious or racial group, there are
> a very few truly evil people. For each of those people there
> are many, many, many good people. Assuming anything (evilness
> or capability for evil) about the particular group is bigotry
> and idiocy. Don't do it.  -- Me
>
> Fred A. Kulack  -  IBM eServer iSeries - Java DB2 access,
> Jdbc, JTA, etc...
> IBM in Rochester, MN  (Phone: 507.253.5982   T/L 553-5982)
> mailto:kulack@us.ibm.com   Personal: mailto:kulack@magnaspeed.net
> AOL Instant Messenger: Home:FKulack  Work:FKulackWrk



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