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  3. November 2001

RE: New GUI for green on black...

Hello Chris

That is the reason I started the project is because I could not find a java
api.  Meaning I wanted access to the 5250 datastream (from linux as well)
but the companies I contract for do not have all the other packages nor do
they plan on getting them.  The run liscenses are really expensive.

Looking at the new400 magazine I have here on my desk there are some really
good alternatives out there.

I am sure you will find a lot out there.

Good hunting


Kenneth




>From: "Price, Chris" <chris_price@nsb.co.uk>
>Reply-To: java400-l@midrange.com
>To: "'java400-l@midrange.com'" <java400-l@midrange.com>
>Subject: RE: New GUI for green on black...
>Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:14:53 -0000
>
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>KJ P,
>
>I also thought that using HACL would be a good idea. Unfortunately the jar
>file doesn't seem to get shipped with Client Access, for no good reason I
>can determine. This is the same jar that should contain the OHIO classes,
>according to the link you gave me...
>
>As far as I know, you still have to pay for the HOD/PComm package.
>
>Chris.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: KJ P [mailto:kjpou@hotmail.com]
>Sent: 12 November 2001 14:45
>To: java400-l@midrange.com
>Subject: RE: New GUI for green on black...
>
>
>Hello Chris
>
> >information - theres no homepage. Incidentaly, where does the info on
>OHIO
>I found the documentation here
>http://www.statistik.at/HOD/de/doc/ohio/OHIOL0M03.HTML#HDRTLIST_START
>
>The document is a reference implementation document and has not been
>completed from what I understand.
>
> >os-ohio is of more interest, but the sourceforge site doesn't give any
>more
> >information - theres no homepage.
>That is because the author is a lazy sod when it comes to setting up
>websites.  He should take the time to do it but the project was not
>receiving a lot of attention so has not really updated it recently.
>
> >itself come from, I can't find any on the IBM website. What's the
> >difference
> >(if any) between OHIO & HACL?
>The document explains the difference more or less.  I am not familiar with
>HACL because I do not have access to the IBM Host on Demand packages from
>IBM.  I do not even know if the Host on demand is free or not.  From what I
>just read it is available in the Host on demand and IBM personal
>communcations.
>
>The author thought it would be fun and informative for others to do an open
>source version of the API.
>
>If you have access to the HACL you will probably be better off using it
>than
>the os-ohio as it is not complete as of yet (looking for more interested
>parties to participate).
>
>So that we do not keep filling up the list you can contact me directly if
>you are interested or have any further questions.
>
>Regards
>
>
>Kenneth
>
>
> >From: "Price, Chris" <chris_price@nsb.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: java400-l@midrange.com
> >To: "'java400-l@midrange.com'" <java400-l@midrange.com>
> >Subject: RE: New GUI for green on black...
> >Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:54:35 -0000
> >
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> >KJP,
> >
> >Thanks for your answer.
> >
> >TN5250j isn't really of any interest to me. For our customers if we're
> >going
> >to do a thick client application I can assume that the user will have a
> >5250
> >emulator already, (normally Client Access).
> >
> >os-ohio is of more interest, but the sourceforge site doesn't give any
>more
> >information - theres no homepage. Incidentaly, where does the info on
>OHIO
> >itself come from, I can't find any on the IBM website. What's the
> >difference
> >(if any) between OHIO & HACL?
> >
> >Chris.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: KJ P [mailto:kjpou@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: 12 November 2001 13:23
> >To: java400-l@midrange.com
> >Subject: Re: New GUI for green on black...
> >
> >
> >Hello Chris
> >
> >If you want control over the 5250 data stream there is a project on
> >sourceforge http://sourcforge.net/projects/os-ohio.  It is in java and
>does
> >not have an HTML interface but the html can be generated.
> >
> >os-ohio is an Open Source implementation of the Open Host Interface
>Objects
> >for java from IBM.
> >
> >You might want to give it a try but like I said it does create HTML but
>it
> >does fit the non expensive middle ware requirement.
> >
> >As far as an in-expensive (Open Source) fat java client that can produce
> >gui
> >screens you can try http://sourcforge.net/projects/tn5250j.  It has
>gotten
> >good response in the past couple of months for the gui parts.
> >
> >Hope these help.
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Kenneth
> >
> > >From: "Price, Chris" <chris_price@nsb.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: java400-l@midrange.com
> > >To: "'java400-l@midrange.com'" <java400-l@midrange.com>
> > >Subject: New GUI for green on black...
> > >Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:31:04 -0000
> > >
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> >understand
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> > >--
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> > >All,
> > >
> > >The top brass here have got this idea of putting a GUI menu in front of
> >our
> > >existing GoB AS/400 application. The idea is fair enough - it gives the
> > >whole application a "fresh new face", whilst enabling us to slot in GUI
> > >functionallity piece-meal as we replace the GoB screens over time.
> > >
> > >I'm quite happy we could design a thick client GUI, in VB or Java,
>using
> >a
> > >5250 emulator controlled by EHLLAPI.
> > >
> > >The problems start when I try to design a web based version. To the
>best
> >of
> > >my knowledge, none of the "standard" 5250-to-HTML converters
>(Webfacing,
> > >WSG, iSeries Access for the Web) allow programatic control of the data
> > >stream, such as the emulator does.
> > >
> > >Does anyone have any suggestion on how to solve this problem? Can it be
> > >done
> > >without using expensive middleware products?
> > >
> > >Any comments gratefully received...
> > >
> > >Chris
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