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If you are an RPG programmer new to Java, I have to disagree with many people who claim you SHOULDN'T use an IDE to learn Java. My experience training new programmers is that VisualAge for Java is a great IDE to get you productive quickly with proper direction. You can produce simple applications and parts of complex ones very rapidly as new person if you learn the IDE. The concept is not much different than when you learned AS/400 RPG.... When you were new to the AS/400 and you wrote your first display file program, a manager probably had you key in the DDS for a display file into SEU to build your first display file program. That was a one time experience so you had a basic understanding of what was behind a screen. After that you immediately started using SDA for all your real work and generated the screens. Saying you should learn Java without an IDE if your new is about as practical as saying you should avoid SDA if you're learning the AS/400 and RPG.... The other comments on this thread explain the steps well of doing that first Java program 'by hand' in an editor and moving it the AS/400. VisualAge for Java is has unique advantages as an IDE FOR RPG programmers but it does require a 'high' powered PC for developer (realistically 128 mb memory and 500 mb of disk for VisualAge if you are using the Enterprise edition. I like that much memory for the Professional edition (about $150) as well if you can get it... Jim Mason Message text written by INTERNET:JAVA400-L@midrange.com > Nooo..p, you got to enter your code in to the note pad and then down load it to the AS400 as a streem file under the directory. Just to browse and simple edit you can use "EDTF" AS400 command, but make sure that CCSID is proper for java source. Go through if you can, it will give directions in a very simple manner http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/pubs/html/as400/v4r4/ic2924/info/java/rzaid/n tvfrm.htm -Thanks sbadve@crowechizek.com on 01/19/2000 06:32:25 AM To: JAVA400-L@midrange.com cc: (bcc: Shailaja Rao/Contractor/CF/CCI) Subject: I am a RPG programmer and trting to learn Java on AS/400. I have basic question. How do you enter Java source commands in AS/400? Do you use SEU?? Thanks < +--- | This is the JAVA/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to JAVA400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to JAVA400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to JAVA400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: joe@zappie.net +---
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