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Interesting ideas on why not to start with an IDE. I started learning Java at the same time I started with VisualAge for Java, so I did use an IDE. (I have a background including C++, which probably helps..) By examing the code produced by the IDE, I learned a number of concepts. Over time however, I have begun to dislike the code produced by the IDE and I write all of my own now. I still use the IDE for debugging, editing, and managing projects, and to add properties, etc., but I stay away from the VCE for the most part. Looking back on it, I think it is hard to say I would have been better off coding java from the get go with Notepad or another editor. I think it made it a bit easier to get things done from the get-go. My 2 cents.. Luther +--- | This is the JAVA/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to JAVA400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to JAVA400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to JAVA400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner: joe@zappie.net +---
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