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With only 1 CPU you will have to try  UPDATE_SUPRESSION_TIME= value in 
minutes which will batch up the update requests 
and make the job more efficient. 

Also, generally speaking any database index set to update immediately will 
be queued for indexing 
whenever there is a change to the database. You may want to use 
Update_Suppression_Time to limit those duplicate requests. 
Update_Suppression_Limit overrides the NOTES.INI Update_Suppression_Time 
setting if a certain number of duplicate requests to update indexes and 
views are received. (Duplicate requests are a waste of clock cycles.)



We have also changed may views on large databases to update hourly or 
daily. (Chronos job run on a scheduled basis). 


Sean 

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message: 1
date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:39:45 -0400
from: seanmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxx
subject: Re: Server constantly updating views 

Indexer is the most CPU intensive job, and is rarely idle. 

Try UPDATE_SUPRESSION_TIME=10


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message: 1
date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:15:31 -0500
from: "Patrick Trapp" <ptrapp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Server constantly updating views






Do you have so many databases that it's time to start the cycle again
before or shortly after it finishes the previous cycle?

Patrick



 
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   I've noticed what I think is odd behavior on one particular 6.   5.1
/V5R2 server that I've not seen on other AS/400 or NT servers. I= t
   seems that this server constantly goes from one DB to the next, updat=
ing
   the views if they are needed or not.

   Updating views in mail/dth.nsf
   Finished updating views in mail/dth.nsf

   We added the notes.ini line "UPDATE_IDLE_TIME=15" but= now the server
   just waits 15 seconds before going on to the next datab= ase.

   I don't think it is affecting performance too badly, but it updates
morning noon and night, non-stop. Any ideas as to what or why this m ight
happen? It has nothing to do with Full Text indexes; it updates al= l
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message: 2
date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:31:01 -0500
from: Tom Kreimer <tkreimer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Server constantly updating views

   Could be. We have 743 databases, of which 268 are mail. So it cou 
normal that the UPDATE task seems to always have views to update?
      ======================   ==============
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message: 3
date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:43:49 -0500
from: "Patrick Trapp" <ptrapp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Server constantly updating views






I don't know for certain, but it seemed like a reasonable thing to
consider.  My server has something just north of 1000 databases and I see 
a
lot of updates going on.  I don't think it's a constant thing, but my
server is hardly overworked.

Patrick

domino400-bounces+ptrapp=nex-tech.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 05/16/2005
01:31:01 PM:

>    Could be. We have 743 databases, of which 268 are mail. So it cou= ld
be
>    normal that the UPDATE task seems to always have views to update?
>       ======================   ==============
>    Tom Kreimer
>    Information Al= ternatives
>    -----domino400-bounces+t= kreimer=infoalt.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
-----
>
>      To: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / = AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>      From: "Patrick Trapp" <ptrapp@ne= x-tech.com>
>      Sent by: domino400-bounces+tkreimer=infoalt.com@midrang= e.com
>      Date: 05/16/2005 01:15PM
>      Subject: Re: Server constantly updatin= g views
>
>      Do you have = so many databases that it's time to start the cycle
again
>      before or shor= tly after it finishes the previous cycle?
>
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>      ight
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message: 4
date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:59:07 -0400
from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Server constantly updating views

You may want to add another Update task:

You can add the Notes.ini line: UPDATERS=X or this is from the help file

To improve view indexing performance, you can run multiple Update tasks. 
Doing this can affect server performance and is recommended primarily for 
multi-processor machines. On a server with multiple processors, enable a 
maximum of one Update task per processor.
Using a Configuration settings document
  1.    From the Domino Administrator, click the Configuration tab.
  2.    Next to "Use Directory on," select the server that stores the 
Domino Directory you want to modify.
  3.    Expand Server - Configurations.
  4.    Do one of the following:
Click Edit Configuration to edit an existing Configuration settings 
document
Click Add Configuration to create a new Configuration settings document
  5.    Click the NOTES.INI Settings tab.
  6.    Click Set/Modify Parameters.
  7.    In the Item box, select Updaters. In the Value box, enter the 
number of Update tasks to run. Then click OK.
  8.    Click Save and Close.
  9.    Restart the server so that the setting takes effect.

Chris Whisonant
Comporium
Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
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domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 
05/16/2005 02:43:49 PM:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know for certain, but it seemed like a reasonable thing to
> consider.  My server has something just north of 1000 databases and I 
see a
> lot of updates going on.  I don't think it's a constant thing, but my
> server is hardly overworked.
> 
> Patrick
> 
> domino400-bounces+ptrapp=nex-tech.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 05/16/2005
> 01:31:01 PM:
> 
> >    Could be. We have 743 databases, of which 268 are mail. So it cou= 
ld
> be
> >    normal that the UPDATE task seems to always have views to update?
> >       ======================   ==============
> >    Tom Kreimer
> >    Information Al= ternatives
> >    -----domino400-bounces+t= kreimer=infoalt.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> -----
> >
> >      To: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / = AS400 
<domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >      From: "Patrick Trapp" <ptrapp@ne= x-tech.com>
> >      Sent by: domino400-bounces+tkreimer=infoalt.com@midrang= e.com
> >      Date: 05/16/2005 01:15PM
> >      Subject: Re: Server constantly updatin= g views
> >
> >      Do you have = so many databases that it's time to start the cycle
> again
> >      before or shor= tly after it finishes the previous cycle?
> >
> >      Patrick
> >
> >      &nb= sp;                     &= nbsp;                    =
> 
> >            &nbs= p;
> >                &nbsp= ; Tom Kreimer                 &nbsp= ;
> 
> >          &nb= sp;
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> 
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nbsp;
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> >      updating views =
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particular
> 6.
> >        = 5.1
> >      /V5R2 server that I've not seen on other AS/400 or NT servers. I= 


=
> t
> >        seems that this server constantly goes from one DB to the
> > next,     updat=
> >      ing
> >        the views if they are needed or not.
> >
> >      &nbs= p; Updating views in mail/dth.nsf
> >        Finished updating views in mail= /dth.nsf
> >
> >        We added the notes.ini line "UPDATE_IDLE_TIME== 15" but= now
> >      the server
> >        just waits 15 seconds before going on t= o the next datab= ase.
> >
> >        I don't think it is affecting perfor= mance too badly, but it
> updates
> >      morning noon and night, non-stop. Any id= eas as to what or why 
this
> m
> >      ight
> >      happen? It has nothing to do wi= th Full Text indexes; it updates
> al=
> >      l
> >        databases.____     _________________________
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message: 5
date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:16:33 -0500
from: Tom Kreimer <tkreimer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Server constantly updating views

   If the recommendation for CPUs applies to the AS/400, we only have 1 
CPU,
   or has anyone not found this to be an issue. Update looks to be on 
average
   only consuming 3.8% CPU, it is probably safe to try another.

   Is there a statistic to see some kind of "queue depth" for views that 
are
   waiting to be re-built?

   ====================================
   Tom Kreimer
   Information Alternatives

   -----domino400-bounces+tkreimer=infoalt.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: -----

   To: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
   From: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
   Sent by: domino400-bounces+tkreimer=infoalt.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
   Date: 05/16/2005 02:59PM
   Subject: Re: Server constantly updating views

   You may want to add another Update task:

   You can add the Notes.ini line: UPDATERS=X or this is from the help 
file

   To improve view indexing performance, you can run multiple Update 
tasks.
   Doing this can affect server performance and is recommended primarily 
for
   multi-processor machines. On a server with multiple processors, enable 
a
   maximum of one Update task per processor.
   Using a Configuration settings document
   1.    From the Domino Administrator, click the Configuration tab.
   2.    Next to "Use Directory on," select the server that stores the
   Domino Directory you want to modify.
   3.    Expand Server - Configurations.
   4.    Do one of the following:
   Click Edit Configuration to edit an existing Configuration settings
   document
   Click Add Configuration to create a new Configuration settings document
   5.    Click the NOTES.INI Settings tab.
   6.    Click Set/Modify Parameters.
   7.    In the Item box, select Updaters. In the Value box, enter the
   number of Update tasks to run. Then click OK.
   8.    Click Save and Close.
   9.    Restart the server so that the setting takes effect.

   Chris Whisonant
   Comporium
   Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
   IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
   IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
   803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax
   http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/


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message: 2
date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:52:22 -0400
from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Server constantly updating views

Lol - I have someone with 453+ folders in her mail file. Love the indexing 

on that!

Chris Whisonant
Comporium
Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
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domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 
05/16/2005 03:39:45 PM:

> Indexer is the most CPU intensive job, and is rarely idle. 
> 
> Try UPDATE_SUPRESSION_TIME=10
> 
> 
> Sean
> 
> http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com
> 
> 
> 
> domino400-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
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> message: 1
> date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:15:31 -0500
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> subject: Re: Server constantly updating views
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Do you have so many databases that it's time to start the cycle again
> before or shortly after it finishes the previous cycle?
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> 
> 
>              Tom Kreimer 
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>                                        Server constantly updating views 
> 
>              05/16/2005 11:36 
>              AM 
> 
> 
>              Please respond to 
>               Lotus Domino on 
>                the iSeries / 
>                    AS400 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    I've noticed what I think is odd behavior on one particular 6.   5.1
> /V5R2 server that I've not seen on other AS/400 or NT servers. I= t
>    seems that this server constantly goes from one DB to the next, 
updat=
> ing
>    the views if they are needed or not.
> 
>    Updating views in mail/dth.nsf
>    Finished updating views in mail/dth.nsf
> 
>    We added the notes.ini line "UPDATE_IDLE_TIME=15" but= now the server
>    just waits 15 seconds before going on to the next datab= ase.
> 
>    I don't think it is affecting performance too badly, but it updates
> morning noon and night, non-stop. Any ideas as to what or why this m 
ight
> happen? It has nothing to do with Full Text indexes; it updates al= l
>    databases._______________________________________________
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> message: 2
> date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:31:01 -0500
> from: Tom Kreimer <tkreimer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: Re: Server constantly updating views
> 
>    Could be. We have 743 databases, of which 268 are mail. So it cou 
> normal that the UPDATE task seems to always have views to update?
>       ======================   ==============
>    Tom Kreimer
>    Information Al   -----domino400-bounces+t
>      To: Lotus Domino on the iSeries /      From: "Patrick Trapp" 
> <ptrapp@ne     Sent by: domino400-bounces+tkreimer=infoalt.com@midrang 
> Date: 05/16/2005 01:15PM
>      Subject: Re: Server constantly updatin
>      Do you have      before or shor
>      Patrick
> 
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>        the views if they are needed or not.
> 
>      &nbs       Finished updating views in mail
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>        just waits 15 seconds before going on t
>        I don't think it is affecting perfor     morning noon and night, 
> non-stop. Any id     ight
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> 
> message: 3
> date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:43:49 -0500
> from: "Patrick Trapp" <ptrapp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: Re: Server constantly updating views
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know for certain, but it seemed like a reasonable thing to
> consider.  My server has something just north of 1000 databases and I 
see 
> a
> lot of updates going on.  I don't think it's a constant thing, but my
> server is hardly overworked.
> 
> Patrick
> 
> domino400-bounces+ptrapp=nex-tech.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 05/16/2005
> 01:31:01 PM:
> 
> >    Could be. We have 743 databases, of which 268 are mail. So it cou= 
ld
> be
> >    normal that the UPDATE task seems to always have views to update?
> >       ======================   ==============
> >    Tom Kreimer
> >    Information Al= ternatives
> >    -----domino400-bounces+t= kreimer=infoalt.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> -----
> >
> >      To: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / = AS400 
<domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >      From: "Patrick Trapp" <ptrapp@ne= x-tech.com>
> >      Sent by: domino400-bounces+tkreimer=infoalt.com@midrang= e.com
> >      Date: 05/16/2005 01:15PM
> >      Subject: Re: Server constantly updatin= g views
> >
> >      Do you have = so many databases that it's time to start the cycle
> again
> >      before or shor= tly after it finishes the previous cycle?
> >
> >      Patrick
> >
> >      &nb= sp;                     &= nbsp;                    =
> 
> >            &nbs= p;
> >                &nbsp= ; Tom Kreimer                 &nbsp= ;
> 
> >          &nb= sp;
> >              &nbs= p;   <TKREIMER@INFOALT
> >                &= nbsp; .com>                 &nbs= p;
> 
> >      &n= bsp;              To
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> >       domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx         &= nbsp;
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> 
> >            &n= bsp;cc
> >                  +ptrapp=nex-tech. &n= bsp;                     =
> 
> >                &nbsp= ;
> >                  com@xxxxxxxxxxxx   &nb= sp;                     &= 
> nbsp;
> 
> >             Subject
> >          &n= bsp;                     =             Server constantly
> >      updating views =
> >                      &n= bsp;                     =
> >      &nbsp= ;
> >           =       05/16/2005 11:36           &= nbsp;
> =
> >
> >            &= nbsp;     AM               &nb= sp;
> > &     nbsp;                    =
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> >            &nbsp= ;                     &nb= sp; &=
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> >                         =
> >                  Please respond to &nb= sp;                     &= 
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> 
> >                                       Lotus Domino on  =
> > &nbs= p;
> >              &n= bsp;
> >                    the iSeries / &nbs= p;                     &n= bsp;
> 
> >                    =
> >                        A= S400                     =
> >      &nbsp= ;
> >                 = <DOMINO400@MIDRAN
> >                  &nb= sp;    ge.com>             &nbsp= ;
> 
> >      &nb= sp;
> >          &nbsp= ;                     &nb= sp;                     &=
> nbsp;
> >                       =
> >                      =                     &nbsp= ;
> > &nb     sp;
> >
> >      &n= bsp; I've noticed what I think is odd behavior on one 
> particular
> 6.
> >        = 5.1
> >      /V5R2 server that I've not seen on other AS/400 or NT servers. I= 

=
> t
> >        seems that this server constantly goes from one DB to the
> > next,     updat=
> >      ing
> >        the views if they are needed or not.
> >
> >      &nbs= p; Updating views in mail/dth.nsf
> >        Finished updating views in mail= /dth.nsf
> >
> >        We added the notes.ini line "UPDATE_IDLE_TIME== 15" but= now
> >      the server
> >        just waits 15 seconds before going on t= o the next datab= ase.
> >
> >        I don't think it is affecting perfor= mance too badly, but it
> updates
> >      morning noon and night, non-stop. Any id= eas as to what or why 
> this
> m
> >      ight
> >      happen? It has nothing to do wi= th Full Text indexes; it updates
> al=
> >      l
> >        databases.____     _________________________
> __________________
> >      This is the Lotus= Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> message: 4
> date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:59:07 -0400
> from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: Re: Server constantly updating views
> 
> You may want to add another Update task:
> 
> You can add the Notes.ini line: UPDATERS=X or this is from the help file
> 
> To improve view indexing performance, you can run multiple Update tasks. 


> Doing this can affect server performance and is recommended primarily 
for 
> multi-processor machines. On a server with multiple processors, enable a 


> maximum of one Update task per processor.
> Using a Configuration settings document
>   1.    From the Domino Administrator, click the Configuration tab.
>   2.    Next to "Use Directory on," select the server that stores the 
> Domino Directory you want to modify.
>   3.    Expand Server - Configurations.
>   4.    Do one of the following:
> Click Edit Configuration to edit an existing Configuration settings 
> document
> Click Add Configuration to create a new Configuration settings document
>   5.    Click the NOTES.INI Settings tab.
>   6.    Click Set/Modify Parameters.
>   7.    In the Item box, select Updaters. In the Value box, enter the 
> number of Update tasks to run. Then click OK.
>   8.    Click Save and Close.
>   9.    Restart the server so that the setting takes effect.
> 
> Chris Whisonant
> Comporium
> Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
> IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
> IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
> 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax
> http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/
> 
> domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 
> 05/16/2005 02:43:49 PM:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I don't know for certain, but it seemed like a reasonable thing to
> > consider.  My server has something just north of 1000 databases and I 
> see a
> > lot of updates going on.  I don't think it's a constant thing, but my
> > server is hardly overworked.
> > 
> > Patrick
> > 
> > domino400-bounces+ptrapp=nex-tech.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 05/16/2005
> > 01:31:01 PM:
> > 
> > >    Could be. We have 743 databases, of which 268 are mail. So it 
cou= 
> ld
> > be
> > >    normal that the UPDATE task seems to always have views to update?
> > >       ======================   ==============
> > >    Tom Kreimer
> > >    Information Al= ternatives
> > >    -----domino400-bounces+t= kreimer=infoalt.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > -----
> > >
> > >      To: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / = AS400 
> <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >      From: "Patrick Trapp" <ptrapp@ne= x-tech.com>
> > >      Sent by: domino400-bounces+tkreimer=infoalt.com@midrang= e.com
> > >      Date: 05/16/2005 01:15PM
> > >      Subject: Re: Server constantly updatin= g views
> > >
> > >      Do you have = so many databases that it's time to start the 
cycle
> > again
> > >      before or shor= tly after it finishes the previous cycle?
> > >
> > >      Patrick
> > >
> > >      &nb= sp;                     &= nbsp;                    =
> > 
> > >            &nbs= p;
> > >                &nbsp= ; Tom Kreimer                 &nbsp= ;
> > 
> > >          &nb= sp;
> > >              &nbs= p;   <TKREIMER@INFOALT
> > >                &= nbsp; .com>                 &nbs= p;
> > 
> > >      &n= bsp;              To
> > >          &= nbsp;       Sent by:           &nbs= p;
> > >       domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx         &= nbsp;
> > >                  domino400-= bounces                   &nbs= p;
> > 
> > >            &n= bsp;cc
> > >                  +ptrapp=nex-tech. &n= bsp;                     =
> > 
> > >                &nbsp= ;
> > >                  com@xxxxxxxxxxxx   &nb= sp;                     &= 
> nbsp;
> > 
> > >             Subject
> > >          &n= bsp;                     =             Server 
constantly
> > >      updating views =
> > >                      &n= bsp;                     =
> > >      &nbsp= ;
> > >           =       05/16/2005 11:36           &= nbsp;
> > =
> > >
> > >            &= nbsp;     AM               &nb= sp;
> > > &     nbsp;                    =
> > >                        &= nbsp;                    =
> > >      &nbs= p;
> > >            &nbsp= ;                     &nb= sp; &=
> > nbsp;
> > >                         =
> > >                  Please respond to &nb= sp;                     &= 
> nbsp;
> > 
> > >                                       Lotus Domino on  =
> > > &nbs= p;
> > >              &n= bsp;
> > >                    the iSeries / &nbs= p;                     &n= 
bsp;
> > 
> > >                    =
> > >                        A= S400                     =
> > >      &nbsp= ;
> > >                 = <DOMINO400@MIDRAN
> > >                  &nb= sp;    ge.com>             &nbsp= ;
> > 
> > >      &nb= sp;
> > >          &nbsp= ;                     &nb= sp; &=
> > nbsp;
> > >                       =
> > >                      =                     &nbsp= ;
> > > &nb     sp;
> > >
> > >      &n= bsp; I've noticed what I think is odd behavior on one 
> particular
> > 6.
> > >        = 5.1
> > >      /V5R2 server that I've not seen on other AS/400 or NT servers. 
I= 
> 
> =
> > t
> > >        seems that this server constantly goes from one DB to the
> > > next,     updat=
> > >      ing
> > >        the views if they are needed or not.
> > >
> > >      &nbs= p; Updating views in mail/dth.nsf
> > >        Finished updating views in mail= /dth.nsf
> > >
> > >        We added the notes.ini line "UPDATE_IDLE_TIME== 15" but= now
> > >      the server
> > >        just waits 15 seconds before going on t= o the next datab= 
ase.
> > >
> > >        I don't think it is affecting perfor= mance too badly, but it
> > updates
> > >      morning noon and night, non-stop. Any id= eas as to what or why 


> this
> > m
> > >      ight
> > >      happen? It has nothing to do wi= th Full Text indexes; it 
updates
> > al=
> > >      l
> > >        databases.____     _________________________
> > __________________
> > >      This is the Lotus= Domino on the iSeries / AS400 (Domino400) 
> mailing
> > >      list
> > >      To post a messag= e email: Domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >      To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change lis= t options,
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> > >      at http://archive.midrange.com/domino4= 00.
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> ------------------------------
> 
> message: 5
> date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:16:33 -0500
> from: Tom Kreimer <tkreimer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> subject: Re: Server constantly updating views
> 
>    If the recommendation for CPUs applies to the AS/400, we only have 1 
> CPU,
>    or has anyone not found this to be an issue. Update looks to be on 
> average
>    only consuming 3.8% CPU, it is probably safe to try another.
> 
>    Is there a statistic to see some kind of "queue depth" for views that 


> are
>    waiting to be re-built?
> 
>    ====================================
>    Tom Kreimer
>    Information Alternatives
> 
>    -----domino400-bounces+tkreimer=infoalt.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: -----
> 
>    To: Lotus Domino on the iSeries / AS400 <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>    From: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>    Sent by: domino400-bounces+tkreimer=infoalt.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>    Date: 05/16/2005 02:59PM
>    Subject: Re: Server constantly updating views
> 
>    You may want to add another Update task:
> 
>    You can add the Notes.ini line: UPDATERS=X or this is from the help 
> file
> 
>    To improve view indexing performance, you can run multiple Update 
> tasks.
>    Doing this can affect server performance and is recommended primarily 


> for
>    multi-processor machines. On a server with multiple processors, 
enable 
> a
>    maximum of one Update task per processor.
>    Using a Configuration settings document
>    1.    From the Domino Administrator, click the Configuration tab.
>    2.    Next to "Use Directory on," select the server that stores the
>    Domino Directory you want to modify.
>    3.    Expand Server - Configurations.
>    4.    Do one of the following:
>    Click Edit Configuration to edit an existing Configuration settings
>    document
>    Click Add Configuration to create a new Configuration settings 
document
>    5.    Click the NOTES.INI Settings tab.
>    6.    Click Set/Modify Parameters.
>    7.    In the Item box, select Updaters. In the Value box, enter the
>    number of Update tasks to run. Then click OK.
>    8.    Click Save and Close.
>    9.    Restart the server so that the setting takes effect.
> 
>    Chris Whisonant
>    Comporium
>    Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
>    IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions 
V5R2
>    IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
>    803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax
>    http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
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