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There is no way for Americans to compete against India, China and others
because they are not socialistic countries.

While there is much to complain about in our current system, I wonder if you are
suggesting we need to ignore the principles our country was founded on, and
become more like India & China in order to compete? If you look at the roots
of our own revolution, not the homogenized school teachings, but the real historical
facts and the writings of the individuals describing their  reasons
for our Revolution, and the earlier Regulator Rebellion (which  historians
think the precursor and beginning of the Revolution) were not based on this current idea of "self-sufficiency". The Sons of Liberty were not fighting to be left alone. They were fighting for fairness and representation. It was the breaking of the social contract between workers, farmers, and merchants and the government. Corruption in the marketplace
was out of hand, and the government equally corrupt, not unlike some of our
current of scandals.
<if India had a Katrina the government would not get involved>
And if your barn burned down.... your neighbors came to help you rebuild... and if a family experienced a tragedy, some local tax money may be voted, or a collection from the wealthy merchants & used to help....Look at the public projects our founding
fathers proposed...This did not start with F.D.Roosevelt.

While looking at the emerging economies,
also look at the protests and corruption they are having to address. Not only are some of the powerful and connected stealing land from peasants, but also enslaving workers to work the factories. I have no problem with our laws that make that illegal! In many of those countries, you can be executed for corruption.(something we lost in our
traditions...)  Their growth will be painful, just as ours was and still is.
It is very apparent that in the 21st century, revolution is alive and well.
just my opinion
jim

(for an insight into our own revolution, try reading 'Breaking Loose Together-The
Regulator Rebellion by M. Kars)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth H Werner" <KHWerner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Consulting on the iSeries / AS400" <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Consult400] Wal-Mart Bashing...Was Re: Hi


There is no way for Americans to compete against India, China and others
because they are not socialistic countries.

They have no Ponzi Scheme (Social System system) that cuts into take
home pay and a cost to the employer hiring them.
They do not pay 26 weeks of vacation to people that lost their job
outside their fault and many that in reality lost a job at their own
fault, unemployment insurance.
They expect people to be self sufficient, if India had a Katrina the
government would not get involved. The people caught by Union Carbide's
chemicals would had no help had it not been for Union Carbide sending
help following a chemical leak. People were surprised that help came
from America.
People take medicine they trust and do not have an FDA to second guess
their trust.
They do not pay farmers to grow a crop and pay farmers not to grow a
crop. Ted Turner gets $MUCH each year as a farmer and couldn't drive a
tractor.
People go to school to get a life long advantage. They  do not suffer
from a "Free Public Education System" whose sole purpose is to
indoctrinate, brainwash students with thoughts the government want them
to think.
They do not have a FTC whose purpose is to help people get ripped off.
The list can go on for pages for why our socialism helps India and China.

It is out choice.

People love the low prices at Wal-Mart -- the shirts I buy at a low
price have to offshore made to be sold at the price I want to pay.

pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

If our factories are shuttered, and the blue-collar folks are out of work,
what need will there be for on-shore tech services? I fear that we are
creating an entire generation of people who will never have a meaningful
job in their life. We are approaching the time where the major line of
business in areas that formerly provided manufacturing jobs is the
gang-related drug trade. Look at the south side of Chicago, Newark,
Philly, or the Bronx.

Shifting the economy from one that is manufacturing based to one that is
services based is foolhardy.




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