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  • Subject: Re: Hello World
  • From: Bruce Bastien <bbastien@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 05:23:46 -0500
  • Organization: @Home Network

Very Good... I agree, Thanks!

Bruce Bastien


"James W. Kilgore" wrote:
> 
> Helllloooo world! ;-)
> 
> Just to start off, I'm about to go into rant mode, but I'm going to try
> to play nice.
> 
> <QUOTE> Midrange Systems March 13, 2000 Vol. 13, No. 4
> "Dave Andrews, of consulting firm D. H. Andrews Group (Cheshire, Conn.),
> agrees the idea of an entire open-source ERP system is intriguing, but
> is skeptical that such a far-reaching application initiative in the
> public domain is feasable.  Andrews is even more skeptical, however,
> about the decision to construct WyattERP as an RPG based set of
> applications."
> </QUOTE>
> 
> <QUOTE> Midrange Computing July 2000, Vol 13 Issue 3 byline: Thomas M.
> Stockwell, D. H. Andrews Group
> "Many industry analysts have said that the projected rise in Java and
> Domino will be the death knell for the AS/400.  They believe that
> companies will move their applications to Java and then, at the first
> possible moment, abandon the AS/400 for less expensive and more popular
> platforms.  Yet this logic seems to fly in the face of the survey
> responses received from these customers.
> First of all, as shown in Figure 3 [not included], the continued high
> use of the AS/400 as a development server through year 3 (91 percent)
> indicates there is no substantial movement downward."
> "However, the really significant indicator of AS/400 stability is the
> use of the traditional language of the AS/400: RPG."
> </QUOTE>
> 
> <QUOTE> Midrange Computing July 2000, Vol 13 Issue 3 byline Ted Holt,
> "IBM Clarifies the Future of AS/400 Application Development"
> 
> "RPG Lives!
> Does this mean that RPG is going to be around for a while? Without a
> doubt."
> </QUOTE>
> 
> IMHO, the same people that are crying that the AS/400 and RPG is dead
> are the same people that said that the mainframe and COBOL was dead in
> 1972.  Personally I think that D. H. Andrews Group is in a situation
> where they are talking out of both sides of their mouth so no matter
> what happens they can claim to have "predicted" the future.
> 
> There are more options available today then there have ever been.  Until
> Java can print it can not be put to global commercial use.  Now I'm I
> dyed in the wool true blue RPG'er, but if you want mainframe to PC
> computability, get an ANSI COBOL compiler.
> 
> If you want the AS/400 to kick butt, stick with RPG and use any and all
> other available languages to capitalize of their strengths and use them
> judicially and prudently.
> 
> OK, I did start to rant a bit, but I tried not to spit while I talked
> =;-}
> 
> jkrueger@dhagroup.com wrote:
> >
> > >>I joined this list sometime ago and was wondering if I am alone
> > here, because I do not receive a single mail.
> >
> > You are not alone.  It seems a lot of us want to listen in on discussions
> > amongst consultants, but none of us have much to say...
> >
> > That in itself presents an interesting image, as many of us are not known 
>for
> > being quiet...
> >
> > There are several hundred people signed up now, so perhaps it is time to 
>hone in
> > on what we want to talk about...
> >
> > Here are some questions we could contemplate:
> >   - Is business starting to pick up now after the Y2K hiatus for anything 
>other
> > than web related consulting?
> >   - Have any of you had direct hands on experience with V4R5, yet?  How 
>rapidly
> > would you advise your clients to consider installing it?
> >   - What about PASE?  It seem fully functional now with the V4R5 
>implementation;
> > any thoughts on how/if to leverage it?
> >   - Are consultants truly so bashful that they can't start threads of
> > discussion?
> >   - IBM claimed they were going to kick off a new X-Treme ad campaign for 
>the
> > 400, has anyone seen signs of it yet?
> >
> > Janet Krueger, in Minnesota, trying to start a snowball rolling...


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