Nobody has mentioned so far what I think are the most critical issues - in order, 1) people, and 2) customization.

Somebody said there were significant changes in how BPCS operates between 4.05 and 8.2. Well, there are some more changes between 8.2 and LX. So not only do you have to worry through things like finding and dealing with new validations of data (requiring new files) but also educating your people in how the new system operates. They may have macros to change; they certainly will have procedures to change, etc.

Customization comes in many forms - including using fields for one thing but finding that LX uses those fields for something else, or validates them in a way that makes your practice invalid.

You have a lot of work.

Dick Bailey
MCFA, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: bpcs-l-bounces+dick.bailey=mcfa.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bpcs-l-bounces+dick.bailey=mcfa.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Cavaiani
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:57 AM
To: BPCS ERP System
Subject: Re: [BPCS-L] 405cd to erp/lx migration

Some very good information from different sources already! Thank you!

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From: bpcs-l-bounces+dcavaiani=amerequip.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bpcs-l-bounces+dcavaiani=amerequip.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:46 AM
To: BPCS ERP System
Subject: Re: [BPCS-L] 405cd to erp/lx migration

Don,

We are doing a 405CD to LX conversion ourselves. A coworker, Kevin, has
ran the process several times for testing over the last several months.
Our production lpar and our test lpar are both on a beefy machine with
lots of disk space:
Production:
System ASP . . . . . . : 6348 G
% system ASP used . . : 55.6776
Test:
System ASP . . . . . . : 1552 G
% system ASP used . . : 58.2276

9117-MMA
System Pool Reserved Max -----DB----- ---Non-DB---
Pool Size (M) Size (M) Active Fault Pages Fault Pages
1 10259.67 1261.77 +++++ .0 .0 11.0 13.8
2 11550.70 84.38 2464 2.4 37.6 207.7 848.2
3 481.27 .07 23 .0 1.1 2.2 9.2
4 4812.79 .03 1204 5.5 53.9 12.7 29.5
5 21023.54 .21 157 16.9 149.4 304.6 641.2

GDIDIVF is our 405CD file library
PRTDSKINF *LIB
% of Size in
Description Disk 1,000,000 bytes
User libraries 34.32 2178478.26
User directories 17.84 1132744.41
Folders and documents .00 1.32
QSYS .13 8233.77
Other IBM libraries .64 40343.15
Licensed Internal Code .49 31355.59
Temporary space 1.54 97888.71
Unused space 44.91 2851104.72
System internal objects .14 8738.69
Objects not in a library .00 34.14
TOTAL 100.01 6348922.76
% of Size in
Library Owner Disk 1000 bytes
#MXJRN MIMIXOWN 13.64 865643884.5
QGPL QSYS 2.06 130979758.1
GDIDIVF SSA 1.46 92507865.1
XXMFGCDF SSA 1.44 91563409.4
...

I am not sure what all the libraries are, but, by golly, we end up with
a dozen new libraries when he runs the conversion. Granted, most of
them are quite small.

Our implementation date is EOY.

We've put our users through extensive ERP training. After that,
extensive LX training.

If you need more info I could probably get it for you. I have to tread
lightly with that coworker - stress factor is high for him about now.

Rob Berendt
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From: "Yan Shargorodsky" <yshargorodsky@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'BPCS ERP System'" <bpcs-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 11/30/2010 06:13 PM
Subject: Re: [BPCS-L] 405cd to erp/lx migration
Sent by: bpcs-l-bounces+rob=dekko.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx



I believe conversion tool comes with the purchase of upgrade, but please
double check with Infor. The size of DASD depends on amount of data,
rather
than current size. It sounds like 1T is more than enough, you may be
able
to
get by with smaller disk and increase it if needed. It sounds like you
are
evaluating your options, you will need much more memory and processing
power
fo LX.

Yan Shargorodsky
Y&Y Solutions,Inc.
Phone: (267)934-8327
E-mail: Yshargorodsky@xxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: bpcs-l-bounces+yshargorodsky=yysinc.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bpcs-l-bounces+yshargorodsky=yysinc.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Don Cavaiani
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:51 PM
To: BPCS ERP System
Subject: Re: [BPCS-L] 405cd to erp/lx migration

Thank you, Yan. Are the tools an extra cost, or included? If we have
an IBM server with 70GB currently, how would a Terabyte on a new server
suffice after the migration?

-----Original Message-----
From: bpcs-l-bounces+dcavaiani=amerequip.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bpcs-l-bounces+dcavaiani=amerequip.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yan Shargorodsky
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:38 PM
To: 'BPCS ERP System'
Subject: Re: [BPCS-L] 405cd to erp/lx migration

Don,

There is much more to conversion than copy files. There are twice as
many files, the files that you have will have 2 to 3 times more fields
and some of them will need to be populated or defaulted. Infor provides
conversion tool that runs on IBM i. The tool will do most of the work
accept changes defined during implementation and some other minor bugs.
My guess is it will do 95% - 99% of work. You will need to have a lot of
disk space available, the process moves data for every BPCS release
between source and target.
There is a way to run it step by step (clearing previous version files),
but it will take a lot of time.

Yan Shargorodsky
Y&Y Solutions,Inc.
Phone: (267)934-8327
E-mail: Yshargorodsky@xxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: bpcs-l-bounces+yshargorodsky=yysinc.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bpcs-l-bounces+yshargorodsky=yysinc.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Don Cavaiani
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:27 PM
To: bpcs-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [BPCS-L] 405cd to erp/lx migration

Anyone do this on their own?

Are the migration tools included with the upgrade - and if not, what
would be strictly the cost of the tools - with no training or support
added in? Is it true that the migration software runs on the IBM i? Is
there much more to it (to moving over existing data) than cpyf with
*map?

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