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Al, Your concerns are well stated, and I am sure echo several of the other members of this forum. It seems the mode of operation of corporations is to "acquire" their competition, rather than spend the same amount of money to improve their own product. I agree that government has "turned a deaf ear" toward this practice (what was the compelling reason for Oracle to purchase PeopleSoft, other than one man's ego) that reflects that business has a "free reign", as long as they keep the books in order. I am concerned that in this case we have 37,000 customers that now know that the cost of this acquisition and the resulting restructuring will come at the cost of reduced innovation, product development, and possibly increased (OGS) support contracts. That's the down side. On the positive side, let's remember that when SSA was originally sold there was a lot of speculation that the Gores brothers were "bottom feeders" that would strip down and sell off portions of the company and then dump the skeleton. That didn't happen. What did happen was that a financially unstable company got put back on its feet, and setup for new investors to take a chance on building that company into a portfolio of ERP choices for their customers. We will always gripe about the cost of support, but I have had some very positive "helpdesk" incidences resolved in the last year (I guess this is really my concern now. Will that change?) with people that really knew the product. At a time when business is struggling with global competition and soaring energy costs, we need more focus on agile, lean, and extremely flexible support systems, not less choices, less innovation, higher support and purchase costs for products that have become loosely integrated to try to patch several different products purchased by a vendor to eliminated the competition. Frederick C. Davy, CPIM, PMP Business Systems Analyst Interface Solution, Inc. Phone: (315) 592-8101 Fax: (315) 592-8481 e-mail: fcdavy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Al Mac <macwheel99@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: bpcs-l-bounces+fcdavy=sealinfo.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx 05/16/2006 12:32 PM Please respond to "SSA's BPCS ERP System" <bpcs-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "BPCS_L discussion" <bpcs-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Re: [BPCS-L] SSA Global acquired by Infor In addition to this BPCS-L thread, which started at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l/200605/msg00878.html a parallel thread is now in MIDRANGE-L which you can follow from its starting point http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l/200605/msg00878.html My main concerns * For a variety of reasons the Anti-Trust Division of US Justice Dept seems to have abandoned the notion that consolidation of an industry means that in the long run there is less competition, more monopoly, less innovation, and that it is their job to do something about that. * When two or more ERP competing in market place, and one buys out the other, there is a risk that one of the two ERP will be trashed because the buyer thinks can get more income by moving its customers to the other ERP than milking the software contracts. We have seen this in other types of hardware and software. * When a company is supporting a wide range of similar products, it can decide to abandon the least profitable one. We saw this when HP got out of the midrange market, abandoning tens of thousands of Universities. * There is a lot of money to be made from companies that have bought into ERP with the notion that over time the ERP will be improved, but to make that income, it does not need to be improved. Needed improvements: better integrate with applications that came along after ERP was invented by APICS in the 1950's, especially Supply Chain and state-of-art engineering design; help with corporate governance, such as security and change management (both hardware and software), and I can mention others. Consider impact of off-shoring on what an enterprise needs, improved employee conferencing in a telecommuting world, especially as pandemic threats increase. * When 2 companies of approx equal size attempt to merge operations (remember HP and Compaq?) the process can be extremely disruptive, especially if corporate culture dissimilar. In any merger, a lot of corporate memory may be in the heads of employees now lost, and not in systems the new owners know how to navigate. * Will all the different ERP that are now under one vendor roof be supported by the new owners in the style to which the ERP users have come to expect? The news media * Infor was a rival of SSA (no surprise to me there) * This buyout makes Infor # 3 behind SAP and Oracle. * The deal is worth $ 1.36 billion. * The combined result is officially 37,000 customers. * SSA HQ Chicago is public company with approx 3,500 employees * Infor HQ Atlanta is privately held with approx 3,1000 employees Quote Judy Sweeney, senior vice president of research at Boston-based AMR Research, said Infor is likely to cut top management, marketing and some sales jobs in Chicago AMR is only one of many research outfits in this area ... I expect some business reporters may soon be interviewing more people at Aberdeen Group http://www.aberdeen.com/default.asp AMR http://www.amrresearch.com/Default.asp?bhcp=1 http://www.atkearney.com/ Deloitte http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/home/0%2C1044%2Csid%25253D1000%2C00.html Forrester http://www.forrester.com/my/1,,1-2,FF.html Gartner http://www.gartner.com/Init IDC http://www.idc.com/ http://www.sageza.com/ Financial Industry http://www.towergroup.com/research/index.jsp Yankee Group http://www.yankeegroup.com/ etc. to get their take on all this, since these outfits have all done extensive research on implications of consolidation of the ERP marketplace http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/cst-fin-ssa16.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0605160187may16,1,390617.story?coll=chi-business-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true http://www.technewsworld.com/story/50541.html Check news in the search engines. SSA is not the only recent or current aquisition by Infor. - Al Macintyre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AlMac http://www.ryze.com/go/Al9Mac BPCS/400 Computer Janitor ... see http://radio.weblogs.com/0107846/stories/2002/11/08/bpcsDocSources.html
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