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Now we know what Mike Greenough meant when he said at the BPCS conference,
"SSA is beating its competitors and has solved the profit equation"






                      "Brian Cormier"
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Sounds like extortion to me...
I heard from a few users at the BPCS conference a lot of people were
dumping
OGS and using an external helpline service. We use Advanced Systems and
Products, as I've heard most others do also. The only downside I see is not
getting access to the latest version of BPCS, but since management wants to
see how things at SSA shake out over the next 2-3 years, we won't be
upgrading any time soon anyway...

Brian Cormier
Mgr. of Acct.
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What's everyone think about the new OGS pricing schematics. If you have not
seen them, here you go:

------ 1 YEAR Option -------
18% = Keys, Phone Support, OGS On-Line, BMRs, Updates, Upgrades 12% = Keys,
Phone Support, OGS On-Line, BMRs  9% =  Keys, Phone Support  6% = Keys

For us, this equates to over 20% increase over this year's price. Last year
we trimmed 200 users off of our license to reduce the price. This year, I'm
not sure what we can do. Anyone had any luck negotiating these terms?


Gary Johnson
Applications Dev. Manager
International Wire Group, Insulated Division
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