Re: Is it possible to crack the BPCS Key logic? -- BPCS-L


Listen - SSA has never kept  someone from getting a permanent key to software
they have a right to and they do not intend to start.   If a key has been
withheld it was withheld for valid reasons, i.e. software not paid for, movement
from one box to another with old tier pricing etc....

However to address the specific issue being given as and example, if you are
moving from a Cisc to Risc machine and have let OGS expire there is a charge for
that.  It took time and effort on SSA's part to test moving BPCS from CISC to
RISC.  If you have not kept current on OGS then you have no right to run BPCS on
the RISC Machine.   OGS is what pays for moving the software forward.

SSA Global Technologies can not give things away.  R & D is expensive, if we
give away their efforts, we'll end up right where we were as SSA.  I don't think
any of us wants that.

If you have a specific issue, contact me directly, not through this list, and I
will get you in touch with the appropriate SSA GT personnel.






"Bill" <brobins3d@yahoo.com> on 10/11/2000 01:05:24 PM

Please respond to BPCS-L@midrange.com

To:   BPCS-L@midrange.com
cc:    (bcc: Kari Miller/SSA/US)
Subject:  Re: Is it possible to crack the BPCS Key logic?



Elsberry,

> Breaking a software key logic is a 'moral' issue.

No it's not, not on it's own.  Breaking the logic in order to get something
not paid for would be.

>  Stealing, no matter what the motive, is still stealing.

Agreed.  But we haven't been talking about stealing have we?  We've been
talking about overriding the security check.

>  In the 10 years that I have worked with SSA,
> and 5 for them, I have never seen them be so unreasonable as to deny a
> permanent key to someone just because they won't pay on-going support for
a
> non-supported older version.

Do you still have contacts there?  Call them up and ask them their current
standing on this issue, and make sure you talk to the holders of the keys.
If by chance you get the answer that goes against what I have proposed, ask
them if they ever held that stance this year.  If they reply it has never
been their policy to withhold the key, then they are lying.  If they reply
that their current policy is as I have represented it, what is your stance
then?

> If you have to rationalize why you're doing something like this, it is
> probably to appease your own conscience and not to support some flimzy
> business reason.

Hmm, I would think being unable to operate software that was legally
licensed would not be a flimzy business reason; maybe your business is
different.

Bill


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