RE: the ASSET issue again -- BPCS-L

Marc,

A few observations based on your statements:

>> ASSET/ADK offers is a simple alternative to RPG

Simple?  There's nothing simple about AS/SET.  I'd say AS/SET is much
more cumbersome to use than RPG.

>> using ASSET will take the same amount of time to run as a program
>> written in RPG.

Actually, AS/SET runs much slower than RPG.  Part of the reason is
the amount of RPG code that is generated by AS/SET.  The code is not
very well optimized.

>> The code generated from a program using Asset will be much smaller
>> than a program written using RPG

Have you seen RPG generated by AS/SET?  If you did, you wouldn't make
this statement.  The AS/SET-generated code is HUGE! And
barely-legible.

>> it will take me a few days to come up with a complex ASSET/ADK
>> program where it may take a week or more using RPG.

Again, I disagree.  If you use structured programming techniques,
coding in RPG should not take any longer than in AS/SET.  I have RPG
shells that could be re-used with minimal fuss, and the end result is
a tightly-written, compact program.

>>PS: It think the people who dislike ASSET are RPG programmers.  

Well, you are the first person I know who actually LIKES AS/SET.  I
code in RPG, AS/SET Synon/2E and Visual Basic.  AS/SET is the one I
dislike the most.

Regards,
Boris

--- "Lacelle, Marc" <LACELLE@rcmint.ca> wrote:
> Hi Ho.
> 
>       I for one use ASSET/ADK as a development tool and find it quite
> useful. I am not an RPG or RPG-ILE programmer and never intend on
> being one.
> ASSET/ADK offers is a simple alternative to RPG. You almost can do
> everything with this tool. Yes, RPG is more powerful but,  a
> program written
> using ASSET will take the same amount of time to run as a program
> written in
> RPG. The code generated from a program using Asset will be much
> smaller than
> a program written using RPG, it will take me a few days to come up
> with a
> complex ASSET/ADK program where it may take a week or more using
> RPG.
> 
>       If the execution time for a program is the same and the length in
> time to write the code using ASSET is lesser than RPG. Why knock
> the
> product. 
> 
>       You are correct in the saying that the source provided by SSA for
> BPCS is pretty bad. We call it spaghetti language over here, but
> lets not
> forget SSA are in the business of making money. If they had two
> line source
> for every program they had, we would not need them. 
> 
>       PS: It think the people who dislike ASSET are RPG programmers.  
> 
>       Marc Lacelle
>       Royal Canadian Mint
>       
>       
> 
> > ----------
> > From:       Chick Doe[SMTP:Cdoe@barton-instruments.com]
> > Reply To:   BPCS-L@midrange.com
> > Sent:       Saturday, September 16, 2000 3:32 PM
> > To:         BPCS-L@midrange.com
> > Subject:    the ASSET issue again
> > 
> > there's been a lot said in the last couple of days about SSA and
> AS/SET.
> > while i am not a fan of it, i can understand the logic of writing
> code in
> > AS/SET that could then be compiled and run on multiple
> environments. yes
> > you will sacrifice performance, but if the intent was to provide
> improved
> > functionality at less cost, then i can understand the logic.
> whether this
> > was ever delivered or not is another question. 
> > 
> > but what drives me absolutely insane is SSA's practice of
> commenting out
> > lines in both the AS/SET source and in the resulting RPG source.
> much o
> > the complexity in trying to read these damn programs is just
> trying to
> > decipher which lines are still executable statements and which
> are now
> > comments. my guess is that well over half of all statements in
> their
> > programs are old lines of code that are now comments. TAKE THEM
> OUT AND
> > GIVE US SOURCE PROGRAMS THAT CAN BE READ!
> > 
> > chick doe
> > barton instrument systems
> > 
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