Re: the ASSET issue again

["L. S. Russell" <leslier@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Whoa!

A poorly written RPG program will run just as fast as one developed with
AS/SET.  But a well written RPG program can run circles around anything
generated by a case tool.  Anyone who writes RPG will become ill at the
site of RPG generated by AS/SET. 

AS/SET does things repeatedly for no earthly reason; loops calling
SUBR's which contain no more code than BEGSR and ENDSR, endlessly
initializing arrays whose values are never changed, ... the list goes on
and on. 

AS/SET code is bloated and ugly, a good RPG programmer can do in 15
lines what a good AS/SET program takes 100 or so lines to do.

P. S.  I have never seen an AS/SET generated subfile program.

"Lacelle, Marc" wrote:
> 
> Hi Ho.
> 
>         I for one use ASSET/ADK as a development tool and find it quite
> useful. I am not an RPG or RPG-ILE programmer and never intend on being one.
> ASSET/ADK offers is a simple alternative to RPG. You almost can do
> everything with this tool. Yes, RPG is more powerful but,  a program written
> using ASSET will take the same amount of time to run as a program written in
> RPG. The code generated from a program using Asset will be much smaller than
> a program written using RPG, it will take me a few days to come up with a
> complex ASSET/ADK program where it may take a week or more using RPG.
> 
>         If the execution time for a program is the same and the length in
> time to write the code using ASSET is lesser than RPG. Why knock the
> product.
> 
>         You are correct in the saying that the source provided by SSA for
> BPCS is pretty bad. We call it spaghetti language over here, but lets not
> forget SSA are in the business of making money. If they had two line source
> for every program they had, we would not need them.
> 
>         PS: It think the people who dislike ASSET are RPG programmers.
> 
>         Marc Lacelle
>         Royal Canadian Mint
> 
> 
> 
> > ----------
> > From:         Chick Doe[SMTP:Cdoe@barton-instruments.com]
> > Reply To:     BPCS-L@midrange.com
> > Sent:         Saturday, September 16, 2000 3:32 PM
> > To:   BPCS-L@midrange.com
> > Subject:      the ASSET issue again
> >
> > there's been a lot said in the last couple of days about SSA and AS/SET.
> > while i am not a fan of it, i can understand the logic of writing code in
> > AS/SET that could then be compiled and run on multiple environments. yes
> > you will sacrifice performance, but if the intent was to provide improved
> > functionality at less cost, then i can understand the logic. whether this
> > was ever delivered or not is another question.
> >
> > but what drives me absolutely insane is SSA's practice of commenting out
> > lines in both the AS/SET source and in the resulting RPG source. much o
> > the complexity in trying to read these damn programs is just trying to
> > decipher which lines are still executable statements and which are now
> > comments. my guess is that well over half of all statements in their
> > programs are old lines of code that are now comments. TAKE THEM OUT AND
> > GIVE US SOURCE PROGRAMS THAT CAN BE READ!
> >
> > chick doe
> > barton instrument systems
> >
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